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From: YxQy

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Date: 6/30/2010 3:39:42 AM
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a lot of body hair..y dont u find a monkey lol hahah

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Date: 6/30/2010 6:19:22 AM
GinaKia
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LA-Phenomenal ,

since you are pointed LA, there was a heavy job in LA. do you have extra time to manage NT since we still have a lot of LA task haven finish.....?

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Date: 6/30/2010 6:22:58 AM
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We currently have 4 LAs, and the past week I have been finishing up as much as possible.

I can handle both jobs just fine I reckon.

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Date: 6/30/2010 7:02:03 AM
GinaKia
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what is your planning for selecting NT roster?
what is your target for this season?
in your opinion, what tactic is suitable for our NT?

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Date: 6/30/2010 8:55:19 AM
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First, your question is kind of off.
After doing my research these players on the current NT Roster are currently the best available Malaysians. If, I do get the job I will most definitely have to stick with these players. I can't just overhaul the whole system immediately.

Because so far our system have not been developed well from the grassroots, you can see the players are not developed up to their maximum potential or many a good young player with MVP,Hall of Famer or All-Time Great go undeveloped.
My planning for the moment is to definitely start from the grassroots. Thats why i have pointed out that I will work closely with the U21 Manager. Its just a normal system of succession from U21s, the player moves and develop to the senior NT.

Target you ask. And for the current season you say. Okay, with the current roster that have been trained over the last few seasons, not far. But what I'm proposing is to get a better player development system in our country. My system is to immediately train the younger players and this will take a few seasons, so results can't be seen immediately. So if I'm elected do not expect immediate results, no one Manager can immediately transform an average team into world beaters in one season.

Tactic. Mind you it also depends on what our opponents' tendencies are. Having a look at this roster we currently have, I'd say Motion or Push The Ball.

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Date: 6/30/2010 10:13:09 AM
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If I may put forward my 2 cents on the issue.

I disagree with the point that our system has not developed well from the grassroots. Every season, I see familiar names within the MBBA scouring the TL for potential local draftees. How many young players with MVP, HoF or ATG go on the Transfer List and remain undeveloped? In the past couple of seasons, zero. Not one. Every single player with good potential are snapped up on the TL and trained. However, why are there these good potential players that go untrained? The answer is they never made it to the TL.

The problem we are grappling now isn't having an undeveloped youth system, but rather too little active players. Our country gets one, maybe 2, great draftees every season. The problem? They usually go to inactive players, or to players who just hang on to them not knowing what to do. What do you do when every mail you send to them remains unreplied and the weeks slip by as you watch another player go down the drain. Quite frankly, there's nothing we can do. One example is my current trainee, who wasted half a season of training as an 18 year old because his manager was inactive. Our U21 manager put him on the NT, and once the owner went bot, I plucked him from the TL for a hefty price.

Our only solution is to increase our user base. Get more active managers in who are willing to row the boat. Expand the pool of people who are drafting players and training them.

However, this is more into the U21 manager's territory than the NT. Now, on to the job of NT manager.

As a potential manager of the NT which only fully developed players qualify, I have only one yardstick which to convince me that you are the man to do the job. Anything else is a bonus. And that is the ability to get the most out of whatever squad you have.

My only request, is show me a match in which you have played in against preferably superior opposition in which you used tactics to maximum effect.

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Date: 6/30/2010 11:04:05 AM
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In your last line, youre asking me for an example of a match if which I used tactics to a maximum effect

Can you clearly specify what does using tactics to a maximum effect mean?

Obviously its very vague and if in that sense you mean winning a match against superior opposition,it is one which is very difficult to ascertain.
I may have played the match with the right tactics or "maximum effect" using your lines but still lose as the opposition take example the teams in MBBA have high end salary players. My team unfortunately have not reached such scales in salary terms as I did not start playing this game as early as the MBBA frontrunners.

You can't be saying if I lost the match I did not use the right tactics. Other factors have to be taken into consideration.

Last edited by OpTic.Phenom at 6/30/2010 11:18:48 AM

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Date: 6/30/2010 11:21:43 AM
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Spaz's question is a hard one to answer but very fitting for our potential Malaysia NT manager. And this is reciprocated by you (Phenom) as well when you mentioned it is hard to win against teams with high end salary players.

But the fact remains, in games against other countries, our teams will find it hard to contend against other countries with users more than 10 times our amount. It doesn't always mean that you will lose if you go against a better team. When we go against a better team, maybe our odds of winning are only 20%. Spaz's question is on how do we make that 20% happen. Granted miracles don't happen often but they do happen when you deploy the right tactic and that is why Spaz asked for a specific example when this was demonstrated by your team.

If the result of a game is purely dependant on the strength of the team, and you are saying that you will not be changing the roster (without looking at their stats), then quite frankly your role as an NT manager is already done.

We need a manager that can challenge the odds and make miracles happen. Show us that you are our man

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Date: 6/30/2010 12:45:12 PM
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Hi all, just my opinion....

First of all, it is very encouraging at least someone is interested tochallenge for being our NT manager now, LA-Phenomenal, especially as new comers, i admire ur work for ur team, strong enough to stay in MBBA now. Good work you have done, i think we all should give himmore affirmation and encouragement.

However, like what Spaz & KwaiWah said here, u need some 'record' for ur own team to show us, and i remembered last season u have one, which u did surprissed me, i.e. against my team, we played in same team enthusiasm and i have played my best squad and best tactics for my team advantage, but still lost to ur team 1 point....that time is my first time acknowledge ur team in MBBA...great job.

But 1 game is not enough, i hope u can be more open and think of some games record to show them. However, great job u have done here...keep it on!!!

This is the match i'm talking about:
http://www.buzzerbeater.org/match/20757491/boxscore.aspx

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148657.16 in reply to 148657.13
Date: 7/1/2010 11:09:38 AM
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Kwaiwah nailed my point exactly.

As of today, Malaysia is ranked 66 out of 98 teams. As a former NT manager, I can tell you that most matches that you will play is going to be against stronger opposition. And the one or two more weaker teams in your group, will aim to beat you with CT advantage because the other teams are just too strong and we pose a good target for a surprise win. Obviously, we cannot be wasting our enthusiasm on weaker teams so now even they pose a threat. What is your game plan?

How good you are as a manager is not based on your team's salary, but how often you beat superior opposition (In this case, a team with higher team salary)? You don't even have to win the match, just let us know that you went in with a workable game plan to give yourself a decent chance of winning.


To the two NT manager candidates, LA-Phenomenal and Ahmoi, like politicians running for office, I would like to see your cases by running through a match you were in where you thought you used your lineup and tactics to obtain a favourable result. I'll try come up with an example during the weekend if I find the time just so I don't leave everyone hanging. Thanks.

P.S. - LA-Phenomenal actually came forward to make a claim for the NT job. That in itself shows confidence, and I give you two points for that.

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Date: 7/1/2010 9:38:39 PM
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LA-Phenomenal - if you are interested to become the NT Manager, you need first register yourself to be one of the candidates...
otherwise, no matter how good you said you are here, you won't get any votes literally, even if you do have support ... :)

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