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Actually I have an idea which require cooperation from a number of team.

Just an opinion.

It might works because not many people from a country is willing to sacrifice their team ranking for their country, if Malaysia have 15 or more player to cooperate, it'll definitely works.

I don't know the right way to explain it so I'll put it on a listed form on what should each of the team have to do:-
-Focus on training monorole on an at least mvp potential player, two if you are willing to maintain NT roster as player will age in BB.
-Maintain a world-renowned trainer(the small difference of world-renowned and exceptional is the difference that determines the 1st and 2nd place)(don't have to be with the fitness specialty until the trainee is ready for match)(its not hard maintaining a world-renowned trainer, I'm already maintaining one which is 110k salary, it only require 450k to win the bids, if the 100k is use for a player, it might help you win a team which use it for a staff, thats why I'm saying sacrificing team ranking)
-Maintain a world-renowned doctor with taping injury to minimise injury percentage as much as possible(I use only 16k to win a bid of one with 22k salary)

Thats all on a suggested routine but it might be hard because the mentioned staff won't be sufficient if many country is using the same tactic, and there are team out there which is doing the same with me.

Of course there are other factor which I did not notice but above is all I have to say on routine.

Just a reminder, a strong and a proficient gameshape really make a huge difference.

It is basically a good suggestion to do a quantum leap of Malaysia NT and U21.

However, you can be less radical whilst taking same result. Let me add a couple of considerations.
1) training monorole you don't sacrifice your team. You IMPROVE your team. Apart of this season, when fighting against a drama requires tough choices, I trained monorole over 8 seasons with a lot of satisfactions, in terms of improved players, cash flow, and results. Without monorole training, I probably would navigate in mid-III. Birole should be applied only under three possible conditions: a) your minutes are a mess - fouled out players or injuries can waste a perfect plan; b) it is a birole training (JS, RB); or c) you are in a very specific condition as mine: rebuilding a team after a promotion in a tough series, where you have to dramatically increase your performances (see this season and last season evaluations of my Mice!).

Monorole is good for all - apart of your opponents

2) a level 5-6-7 trainers is a luxury. If you can, it's great. If you cannot, you can train a top class player with a level 4 trainer. Differences are a couple of pops (including secondaries) per season. So I would recommend a level 5+ trainers only under two possible status: a) you want to take all potential out of your player before aging 24-25 (and you have enough cash to pay wage), or b) you must accelerate his growth because he needs to fill some gap (he started with some bad primary). I trained Scalambrieri with level 4 trainers, he is among top Italian PG's and hit potential. See his average evaluation (scoring depends on team's performances and tactics however).

a strong and a proficient gameshape really make a huge difference.

training monorole you don't sacrifice your team

I mean, not sacrifice the team, its the team rating of competing with those who use the 100k on a player instead of paying for staff. Some people have the great will of being number one for the country.

I think that team with an extra player of 100k will be better than a similar team which has only a faster training rate instead of having an extra 100k player.

I think among all of your suggested purposes, this is the one

b) you must accelerate his growth

In order to compete with elite NT,

I reply in a rush, I'm late, if theres anything I missed or misunderstood, wait for my return for a better reply.

Last edited by Vandar at 11/9/2010 5:33:45 PM

I think that team with an extra player of 100k will be better than a similar team which has only a faster training rate instead of having an extra 100k player.

I think among all of your suggested purposes, this is the one

b) you must accelerate his growth

In order to compete with elite NT,

I reply in a rush, I'm late, if theres anything I missed or misunderstood, wait for my return for a better reply.

I agree with your assertion. This season I had to review some training program (simply shifting to less visionary but more pragmatic birole JS already skilled elsewhere, but in the future I will be back on my track), to add a 120K$ Center.

I will wait for better reply, don't worry, time to sleep to me too!

I think no problem with my previous reply, its about the 100k++ for staff instead of a player.

I think no problem with my previous reply, its about the 100k++ for staff instead of a player.

Funding 100K for a staff instead of a player is actually a short term thing.

If you look at it long term, if the rate of skills increasing is increased then it is actually faster for players to reach $100K salary. So in the end (after 3-4 seasons), you will not only need to fund a 100K staff but also a 100K player.
And if we want to aim for the stars, target should be 200K for the players. So ultimately it will be 200K for player and 100K for trainer if using your strategy.

Ultimately it depends on the objective. If the objective is only to improve the U21 team, then yes, having the highest level trainer will definitely have a huge impact.
But if the objective is to improve the Senior NT team, then having the level of trainer above level 5 is not as huge impact as there is no age limit for NT so you just need to train extra few weeks with Superior trainer compared to training with a World Renown trainer.

As NT coach, I will surely support Zhou to be trained continuously, as it will only benefit Malaysia's NT. It's really up to you whether you want to keep this home-grown player at your backyard until he retires, or sell him for a profit to support your team's growth. My advice is, keep him. He is improving all the time, and this will surely help you build your team stronger and challenge for honours, and of course, prize money.

Even if his salary does go beyond 300K, I think you will still be able to sustain his salary, because you are darn rich :)

And if we want to aim for the stars, target should be 200K for the players. So ultimately it will be 200K for player and 100K for trainer if using your strategy.

Ya, the team will have to transfer out his another player as the trainee salary grow(different case if the trainee is in NT as the team merchandise will grow as well), thats why I'm saying this strategy will cause the team to stay behind the team which only focus on improving his own team.

Actually I don't know whether will a team that maintain a world-renowned trainer will always be behind a team who uses the money to maintain a world-renowned trainer for improving his team with investing on player instead of trainer or not, since it includes many factor such as an unknown amount of merchandise increment for having a player in NT, the results as time goes by, and some other factors which I haven't notice yet.

Ultimately it depends on the objective. If the objective is only to improve the U21 team, then yes, having the highest level trainer will definitely have a huge impact.
But if the objective is to improve the Senior NT team, then having the level of trainer above level 5 is not as huge impact as there is no age limit for NT so you just need to train extra few weeks with Superior trainer compared to training with a World Renown trainer.

Yes, the player will still grow with a superior trainer but the player which is trained by a world-renowned will grow even better each time, therefore the gap in between will be expanding as time goes on, resulting in we'll never be able to keep up and even falling back if more and more country getting ahead of us. I don't think they'll stop training for us to catchup.

Last edited by Vandar at 11/11/2010 3:50:25 AM

I know training an NT player and competing is tough, although I did not experience it before.

Choose one muahaha, cannot be greedy as the income per week cannot sustain both.

By they way, why people will hate a player farming team, wouldn't it be better as they can win the farming team all the time. I'll be a farming team if I get an ATG, or maybe will consider to farm with just a hall of famer, and I will farm until I feel that the trainee is not worth to train anymore if compare to another young ATG or HOF draft(if lucky enough to get again).

Wow I'm dreaming of having a 300k ATG.

Last edited by Vandar at 11/11/2010 2:49:59 AM

Talking about age, in addition to my strategy in order to maintain the NT as time pass by, we can continue to train the current NT player eventhough his skills is degrading and at the same time having another team or have the same team to train a new young trainee(secondary for the same team), and replace the current NT player with the younger trainee when he has surpasses the current NT player because the younger trainee will catchup the current NT player as old player has a slower pop-up and may experience a decrease in skills.