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175459.7 in reply to 175459.6
Date: 2/22/2011 11:26:42 AM
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I'm not saying that Melo and Amare comparable to Wade and James, but they are moving in the right direction. Although Gallinari, Chandler and Felton are decent players...I honestly don't think any of them are more than pieces that can be replaced. Its the superstars that aren't replaceable.

Maybe the Knicks can sign AI.... :-)

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Date: 2/22/2011 12:38:04 PM
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Actually, I think in the NBA, you try to get two or three top players and then add the players around them as best you can. Without star players...you just don't move the dial in the NBA.



There are some examples of championships won by depth more than stars. Detroit Pistons for their second series of championship runs comes to mind.

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NYK have just made themselves an Atlanta caliber team for the next few seasons, that's about it.


Everyone bags on Atlanta. Atlanta is a top 4 East team, the Knicks still arent. I seriously doubt the Knicks win a playoff series this season. All Melo means to them this year is they dont miss the playoffs.


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Date: 2/22/2011 3:21:51 PM
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All Melo means to them this year is they dont miss the playoffs.


I don't even think he means that much, since the Knicks were playoff-bound without him anyway. All Melo means is that we're once again trading the team's future for a quick fix that may or may not work. That's Dolan's specialty.

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Date: 2/22/2011 6:04:26 PM
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I agree. Not to mention they could have positioned themselves for Chris Paul/Deron Williams types in later seasons, which they needed more of. It's like an odd type of lack of patience, they haven't grown into a contender this year, and even in the future Stoudemire/Anthony just isn't as good a collection of "stars" as Wade/Lebron/Bosh.


Pundits seemed to be saying that the Knicks would still have a shot at Paul or Williams...maybe even a better shot now.



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Date: 2/22/2011 11:08:28 PM
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All Melo means to them this year is they dont miss the playoffs.


I don't even think he means that much, since the Knicks were playoff-bound without him anyway. All Melo means is that we're once again trading the team's future for a quick fix that may or may not work. That's Dolan's specialty.



They started hot, but have been pretty awful of late

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Date: 2/23/2011 4:37:33 AM
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I agree. Not to mention they could have positioned themselves for Chris Paul/Deron Williams types in later seasons, which they needed more of. It's like an odd type of lack of patience, they haven't grown into a contender this year, and even in the future Stoudemire/Anthony just isn't as good a collection of "stars" as Wade/Lebron/Bosh.


Pundits seemed to be saying that the Knicks would still have a shot at Paul or Williams...maybe even a better shot now.



Really? Who beyond NY media's saying that? At BEST (read: under this year's conditions) NYK have about $11.5 mil in salary space, which a) no-one believes is going to be remotely the case given the impending DOOM of the expected new CBA... and b) wouldn't be enough to land Williams/Paul.
The difference between Miami and this is that James/Wade/Bosh took less money...

Here's what Chad Ford had to say about this deal (in summation):
If Knicks fans are happy with 45-to-50 wins per season and a likely first-round exit from the playoffs, then this was a winning move. But for all the Knicks fans who say that nothing but a title contender will make them happy, this deal may have actually put their team further from their goal than they think.

http://with-malice.com/ - The half-crazed ramblings of a Lakers fanatic in Japan
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Date: 2/23/2011 7:45:58 AM
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They started hot, but have been pretty awful of late


They're still above .500 and would have to be much more awful than they've been to drop out of playoff contention, given the state of the conference. I'm not saying they were looking to get a high seed, but they were going to get in. A first round loss to the Celtics wouldn't even have bothered me too much, considering how insanely long it's been since the Knicks even made the playoffs.

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Date: 2/23/2011 8:03:57 AM
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I know people are going to yell at me, but I think everything is said in the first 18 seconds of this video : (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqZXvNrA7cs).

I miss those players you had the guts to challenge the bests.

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175459.17 in reply to 175459.15
Date: 2/23/2011 2:03:04 PM
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Yes, I keep forgetting how weak overal the east still is. Were they in the west they would be the 10th seed

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