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yeps it's very easy to learn to song

@The Ravings we only play the song Bye bye beautiful from nightwish before the game starts as a warning everyone is going home with a loosing game :)

guy's, let's not hijack the thread right ;)

this is still the NT thread :P i just suggested the new NT anthem for the fans :P

If you want to debate about club anthem songs, do it in a seperate topic ;)

ps: i'm a fan of J-music

pps: back on topic. Time to prepare for the game against Brazil ;)

sometimes i wonder how this consolation draw is done...

for the past 3 consolation tournaments, we always ended up playing Venezuela. Futhermore, for the past 2 consolation tournaments, we've always ended up drawing them in an away game. We managed to get a narrow win in season 10, but in season 12 and 14, both games against them were lost.

preview for the 6 remaining games:

Brasil @ Belgium: we're playing home, but they only have 10 men on their roster ( of which one is injured) so they are likely to add some more players to their roster. I'm expecting 2 extra guards, one SF type of player and 2 (maybe even 3) big men to be added to their roster. It's a surprize not to see Brazil in the World Cup, since they have got a very strong team. Brasil could be one of the teams to win the consolation tournament. A win against Brasil is highly unlikely.

Belgium @ South Africa: Altho they would need to win all their games to make it to the final 32, they have 2 hard games up ahead of them: Away against Slovenko and home against Germany. Remains to be seen what they can do, but they have gone 3x TIE in the repechage pool games, and thus, have a better enthousiasme than any of the teams that started of in the consolation tourney. Could be a thougher game than expected.

Ireland @ Belgium: Looks like Irish players aren't been trained well, or maybe to few decent players to train, but we should win this game. Our NT has better players, we are playing home, so if the GS is decent, then this should be a win for us.

Belgium @ Venezuela: Both teams have met eachother 3 times in the past 3 consolation tournament. Each time, the home team mananged to win the game. Venezuela has team that is more or less on the same lvl as our NT, but they have a much thougher schedule, playing a few away games against teams with more or less the same strength as them, so remains to be seen how the coach will use his enthousiasme, but the possibility of getting a win their is very slim.

India @ Belgium: I haven't paid much attention to them, but after a glace at their roster and their players, i'd be tempted to say that they have some average big men, but have a serious lack in the guard compartment. This should be a victory for us (unless if we end up having a very bad GS for this game, but that goes for any of the games)

Belgium @ England: It's been a while since we faced England in a competitive game on the NT lvl. This seasons opener was against them. We played a scrimmage game against them earlier this season, but everyone knows that scrimmages don't mean alot, especially not on the NT lvl. England has to play away against Malasia and Brazil, and already have lost one game. It's is likely that England will have a 4-3 record when facing us, and theirfor, they will need to win against Belgian NT if they are to quallify for the knock out stage ( and they'll need a good point difference too). With a bitt of luck, the Belgian NT will have secured their spot in ammongst the final 32 by then. This means that out of the 5 games prior to this one, we'll need to win 4 of them. We'll have to hope for a win against either Brasil or Venezuela. If we manage to get one win their, then we shouldn't worry about the result, and can save up some enthousiasme for the KO stage. However, if we end up losing 2 or more games, then we'll have to go all out in our last game, which would probably mean an early exit in the KO stage (in the event that our point difference is good enough to make it)



Last edited by AthrunZala at 5/14/2011 11:18:52 AM

To futher explain how things work in the consolation tournament:
normally, a team needs to have 6 wins out of 8 games, if they want to make the final 32. After that, you play a seeded tournament, where the best team has Home Court Advantage. First team will play against the 32 ranked team, 2 against the 31st ranked team, etc...

Even if you manage to end up being the first, you still could play against big nations like France, Germany, Turkey, Switserland, Brasil ( tho unlikely that one, but you never know in BB), Portugal just to name a few. Even tho we'd be playing on our home court, that still would most probably mean we'd be playing a match that we can't win, unless using a CT, thus losing all our enthousiasme and face a most certain defeat in the round right after it.

What can be won in the consolation tournament?
Their aren't any cups to win. However, the NT that has the best preformance from each continent, is awarded with Home Court Advantage for the season 17 regional quallifying championships, as well with the regional championship itself ( so the team with the best preformance from europe will host the european quallifying round and european round itself, the best african preformance will host African quallifier and african championship, etc...)

It's highly unlikely that we'll end up having the best european preformance in this competition, considering that european top teams such as Portugal, France, Germany, Swiss, Turkey or the Netherlands ( just to name a few) will be competing for the top spot too. However, what we can do is try to improve our NT ranking as much as possible, which, normally, should translate in a nice draw for the next european quallifier ( depends on who we draw ofcourse. NT teams who have had a bad season, lose considerable ammount of spots on the NT ranking list, so sometimes, you face stronger teams that you'd expect to see at a certain place on the NT ranking list). But before we start talking about season 16, let's first try to improve Belgians NT ranking as much as possible, and to have a good run in this consolation tournament.

Belgium hasn't been very succesfull in the consolation tournament up untill now. Our best preformances come from season 4 and season 8, where Belgium was knocked out in the first round of the KO stage. In all the other seasons, The belgian Nt wasn't able to get into the final 32.

As many know (and i've experienced it first hand with my past 3 seasons as NT coach) results can change very soon. Anything is possible in BB. Theirfor, the first goal will be to quallify for the KO stage of the consolation tournament. Once and if ( hopefully we will) we are quallified we'll see how we plan from their on.

their, my season 16 preview for the first round of the NT consolation tournament.

LA-Revo

Well I'm thinking about the theme song of the basketball movie: Semi-Pro

Love Me Sexy - Jacky Moon ;D
Else it will be the Prodigy - Limpbizkit remix by Pendulum!

though loss today.

We played well, untill in the 3rd quarter, where everything went wrong. Altho i had chosen the right tactics, we still lost the game. We didn't dominate the boards as we should have, and had much to much Turn Overs and faules. Especially the loss of De Neef with 6 minutes left on the clock was to much to overcome.

Never the less. if you can hold a JS 20 JR 16 player to 3 out of 16 from downtown, then i think you can say we did a decent job on defending... Ow well, it's not that today's loss wasn't expected. However, the way that we lost tastes rather bitter.

Next game is an away game against South Africa. Keep your minutes down on the NT players, keep their gamesshapes high, and then we'll have reason to expect a win in that game.

Revo

today we suffered another very though loss. Especially if you look at the player ratings. Fact is that much to much fauls were committed, but the reason why still isn't very clear to me.

Hupez, usually not a guy who makes alot of fauls, goes for 4 faules in the game.

SF Mees isn't exactly an angel, but he was benched very soon due to faul trouble. His replacement, Loddo, who has played SF a few times already, isn't much better. he also soon gets himself in foul trouble. Reservist SF (and reserve PF) Dorchain has to come in the game at the SF since our starting and Back up SF made to many fauls...

fact remains that Belgian NT now has lost 2 games, and will have to either win all remaining 4 games, or win 3 games but have a very high Point difference to make the final 32 (we currently have the worst point difference from all teams who had won 2 games out of their 3 games prior to this game, so it's unlikely that we'll be able to hope to qualify if we don't win the remaining 4 games...)

you could blame the loss on the Difference of enthousiasme used, or on the fact that South Africa was the home team, but if you compare both teams in terms of players, then this should have been a certain victory for the Belgian NT.

i can't undo what has been done, so i'll have to move forward from here on. The Belgian NT has got it's back against the wall. Their is no more room for an error. We are in for a very though ride from here on.

Last edited by AthrunZala at 5/23/2011 2:00:55 PM

When I analyse just the after-game-ratings and info I can see, I'm not upset with the loss. I think it's perfectly normal.

We might have had the better team, but there are some factors in their favor, and they have proven to be enough for the win, and it's not undeserved, nuless you want to argue they where lucky we made the mistakes, and that doesn't count for a deserved victory.

here are the factors:
* They have HCA
* They play with higher motivation for the game (S.A. put more effort ni the game then Belgium), which in combination with HCA is extremely dangerous.
* They pick a good defense, and not a bad offense.
* We pick a bad offense, we attack inside, where their defense is strongest.

both last points derived from this statement: defenses and offenses are best neutral, unless you clearly have an advantage in choosing inside or outside. Translated this means: unless opponent's defense is clearly lower in 1 area, neutral attack is best.
Executed on this game, we see: we attack inside, not is it no good tactic, but it's bad, as inside defense is strongest for SA defense. Our defense is good, it's balanced, BUT they choose to attack inside, which means we should have had a better defense if we would go 2-3 zone.
It is clear that our guards get the best ratings in this game. I think with neutral or outside offense we would have had a very big change on victory. Even though playing away, and putting less effort in the game is very dangerous at all times, unless you realy overrun your opponent on neutral court with normal tactics.
I'm not going to argue about playerwages and comparing those to figure out who's got the best players either, nor will I agree on estimating the value on the field a player adds, by looking at his wage.

With all these points in favor of S.A. I think they had the best chances to win the game, right from the start. They are just not strong enough to win by a big margin, but it certainly isn't an upsetting win.

Belgian NT destroyes Irish NT

today, the Belgian NT played in a sold out Giants Arena agains the Irish NT, and they have put on a show. The Belgian NT almost outscored the Irish NT by 2 points to 1, ending with a 137 - 69 victory, which has put the Belgian NT right back on track after their sudden surprize loss against South Africa.

Manager revo had this to say: Look, we had to show our fans something after the humiliating loss against South Africa. I don't care how you look at it, we should have won in South Africa, periode. So, we came out with the mindset that we wanted to show the entire BB nation that Belgians will bounce back from humiliating losses, and that is exactly what we did. We came out hard, with a very aggresive mindset ( a bitt to agressive for our PF's, who were in constant faultrouble for the whole evening...) and we won all the hustle plays to end up with a big big victory. We wanted to get a very big point difference, to get in a as opportune position as we could, hoping for a second round participation.

especially their defensif tactic was an odd one. Our main force is inside attack, which has been pretty clear in the past games... We decided to go for a higher pace game, since we wanted to get a maximal different in points... but to why we faced a 3-2 zone, still remains unclear. We're guessing that we faced a 3-2 zone because their defence outside is horribly weak. When looking back at the ratings, their outside defence was hardly boosted at all... ow well, no time to wonder why, because it's not important. What will be important, is how we will face venezuela.

It was Belgians biggest NT victory for a long time ( possibly the biggest victory ever recorded by the belgian NT) (it was also the worst spanking that the irish NT has suffered in it's entire BB history!)

Revo now looks on to what will be a very crutial match. after having failed to win against South Africa, Revo will now have to find a way to lead the NT to victory against Venezuela, which is a much tougher country than South Africa... All the Nt players have asked the fans to book their flights to Venezuela, to be able to cheer on their NT team in Venezuela.



Last edited by AthrunZala at 5/30/2011 5:29:43 PM

article from "De standaard"

Belgium Beats Venezuela and gets a huge away win!

LA-Revo was very happy after today's preformance. He was clearly dissappointed about how things were going, and with the starting SF, PF and C getting into faul trouble early on in the game. However, their relievers ( SF Ottevaere, C Francaart and in a lesser way, PF Mees too) stepped up their game lvl. Ottevaere went to grab a few key Offensif rebounds with ended up giving hugh second chance positions...

The game remained close untill in the 3rd quarter, when starting PG Thys got injured. Belgium supporters held were already fearing the worst, but back up PG Waelput went pestachio's! He lead the team as if he was the starting PG all along.

And then came the 4th quarter, where Belgium finally started hitting their 3 ball.

La-Revo: " we knew we had in it us. And i knew that TD30 (Tijl Deseure) had it in him. We made 6x 3 point shots in the 4th quarter, which quickly put the game out of reach for Venezuela. When the Starters finally had calmed down for the 4th quarter, we just took the game into our hands and never gave them a chance to come back..."

LA-Revo was very happy with the victory, since it's was the first victory ever over Venezuela when Belgium wasn't playing home, and it was in season 10 that belgium had beaten Venezuela for the last time, getting a narrow home win back then.

However, LA-Revo stressed that nobody was out of the woods. The Belgian NT still is in a though spot and might have 2 pretty difficult games to play still. Nothing is certain. But atleast, with this win, the mistake that was made against South Africa was corrected.

Article written by James Beckett

Last edited by AthrunZala at 6/6/2011 8:16:16 PM