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189309.7 in reply to 189309.5
Date: 7/10/2011 8:10:07 PM
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Since he can't score against my Big men
won't he naturally try and score inside with others


If he can't get the ball to the big men then he will either:
1. try drive in with the guards but they also need very high driving and IS and possibly high passing from other players
2. forced to take long range jump shots just before shot clock expires as getting a shot off is better than no shot at all.

In either case, M2M is more superior as guards don't tend to have high IS and also you won't be too exposed on outside when they start taking jump shots

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189309.8 in reply to 189309.7
Date: 7/10/2011 10:15:22 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Canada Purple Haze BC
I have enough outside defense to cover SF SG & PG
just worried about those 3 taking the ball inside
especially SF

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189309.9 in reply to 189309.6
Date: 7/11/2011 3:08:30 AM
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usually, when going to the bigs inside doesn't work, the guards will start chucking up 3s. If you play 2-3 zoe in such a case, chucking up 3s is a very good strategy - you'll usually be too weak on the outside.



i got around 2 average three against me playing 2-3, so you nrmally could afford that ;)

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189309.12 in reply to 189309.10
Date: 7/11/2011 8:05:24 PM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Canada Purple Haze BC
That won't work next level up
teams will know what you're doing
and eat up your 2-3

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189309.13 in reply to 189309.11
Date: 7/11/2011 8:36:24 PM
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Few seasons ago 2-3 zone was good zone , like others. I can tell you that then I used 2-3 a lot of times. But from few seasons when changes in BB was introduced , 2-3 zone was broken. U can see that on high lvl of games in BB almost nobody use 2-3.
For example look at BBB. Almost all teams use Inside tactics to win games and only few users try to stopped them by 2-3 , but they fail it.



Thats right. It pretty clear, the equation for inside shots involves the variables: passing + driving + inside shot + jumpshot (depending on how far from the basket).

The equation to stop inside shots involves the variables: inside d + shot blocking + a small bit of outside d.

A SF with really good driving and inside shot gets a pass from a high level passer, that is 3 mutipliers against a static inside D + shot blocking.

This happens 3 times, guarenteed 1 or 2 times, the shooter gets a foul and two fts. In my opinion, the driving multiplier is too strong. Its the easiest skill to train. You get level 15 driving on a guard with level 10+ inside shot, and there arent many SF in this game that can stop that guy getting a level 14+ pass and scoring (or getting the foul).

The second problem I have with look inside is that, those teams still get up 2/3 3's a quarter. That is ideal for ANY offense. But when you have the benefit of attacking inside, drawing fouls, and still getting up 3's, it simply makes look inside a tough offense to stop without throwing money at with with 1) a bigger look inside or 2) big time shooters.

Somebody let me a hold a no. 2 pencil cause they testin' me.
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189309.16 in reply to 189309.15
Date: 7/12/2011 7:24:05 PM
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2-3 zone isn't a terrible tactic like people make it out to be. But I'd go man in any case just to stop the potential outside shooting you'd get when you play 2-3.

From: Bigcatjc

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189309.17 in reply to 189309.13
Date: 7/12/2011 7:29:07 PM
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Few seasons ago 2-3 zone was good zone , like others. I can tell you that then I used 2-3 a lot of times. But from few seasons when changes in BB was introduced , 2-3 zone was broken. U can see that on high lvl of games in BB almost nobody use 2-3.
For example look at BBB. Almost all teams use Inside tactics to win games and only few users try to stopped them by 2-3 , but they fail it.



Thats right. It pretty clear, the equation for inside shots involves the variables: passing + driving + inside shot + jumpshot (depending on how far from the basket).

The equation to stop inside shots involves the variables: inside d + shot blocking + a small bit of outside d.

A SF with really good driving and inside shot gets a pass from a high level passer, that is 3 mutipliers against a static inside D + shot blocking.

This happens 3 times, guarenteed 1 or 2 times, the shooter gets a foul and two fts. In my opinion, the driving multiplier is too strong. Its the easiest skill to train. You get level 15 driving on a guard with level 10+ inside shot, and there arent many SF in this game that can stop that guy getting a level 14+ pass and scoring (or getting the foul).

The second problem I have with look inside is that, those teams still get up 2/3 3's a quarter. That is ideal for ANY offense. But when you have the benefit of attacking inside, drawing fouls, and still getting up 3's, it simply makes look inside a tough offense to stop without throwing money at with with 1) a bigger look inside or 2) big time shooters.


I think the LI offense is the most understood offense in the game right now. Due to heavy experimenting, largely due to the ease in training big men. The offense has been perfected a lot more than the other offenses in the game. That said, that doesn't make it cheap or broken.


I also find it interesting that you think the driving multiplier is too high, considering there seems to be a great divide in whether driving is needed at all.


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