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232832.7 in reply to 232832.6
Date: 12/13/2012 12:26:05 AM
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No problem. That's a pretty good goal. Yeah, the arena helps a lot in keeping a high salary team. What I like about my team is that I can actually afford having good backups. Those backups can be important sometimes.

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232832.8 in reply to 232832.7
Date: 12/13/2012 7:25:17 PM
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Damn right back ups can be important. I try to have 3 back ups that can play multi position like PF/C, SF/PF, SG/SF and until i had my best shooter get injured this week I had a good back up PG who now has to start. While my trainee gets more mins for the next couple of weeks. OK, Whats you're take on trainees???? I HAVE NEVER really been involved in training young players until this past season..I have a 20 yo PG, a 19 yo SF and a 23 yo PF that I like to increase on Defense and shooting and some 1on1..But believe it or not man..I have 2 guys that are MVP potential, one is 26 and one is 27 who still pop...so while i'm training my trainee young guys, my mid 20's guys are benefitting as well. I may be going about it wrong as I had choices all over the forum boards that I gave up taking advice from some. AGAIN, THANK a ton for you're info. Im sure Olmers has benefitted from you're advise. So dont look at it as a conflict of interest. Olmers has always been a cool dude and I enjoy playing him.

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232832.9 in reply to 232832.8
Date: 12/14/2012 12:38:43 AM
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No problem. Both your teams are really interesting. I think it's good that your MVP guys are still popping.
In my opinion, trainees are ridiculously important. If you look at my players at the PG and SG positions, they all started out as trainees. My 16k PG/SG, I've been training since Season 17. It took a long time (5 seasons!), but training him and some of the others was completely worth it. My SG Charles Boyle I drafted after Season 18. He's now a decent outside shooter for D-4. I recently got an 18-year old superstar, Hector Jennings. After a few seasons, I bet he'll be a monster. So, there you go. I really like training trainees, because I think it's so worth it in the end. I normally train Jump Shot and Outside Shooting, even though most people advise me not to train Outside Shooting. I think Outside Shooting should be trained sometimes at least, especially for the Run and Gun teams. Occasionally, I train handling, driving, passing to keep those skills up, but I mostly train for pure shooting offense. Maybe you don't want to be as extreme as I am, but hey, whatever works!
I actually haven't given that much advice to Ohmers. He takes his advice from another friend (the one who rage-quit because D-4 was too difficult for him).

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232832.10 in reply to 232832.9
Date: 12/14/2012 6:49:57 PM
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Yeah, thats how I kinda plan but throwing in some "D" training as well. I have had a potent offense for a couple of seasons now. Its said that offense wins games but defense wins championships. I HAVE though..seen a ton of offensive powered teams who run n gun like us and still over come tough defenses. With the way I'm built around Miho and Adrian and Ruban I need to get me a couple of defensive studs. I went out and got Issac palamas and Jakobs so i have some D at the pg spot and the big spot. Miho is a great defensive player and Adrian is as well. But when they get hot from downtown its going to be tuff for the opposing team.

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232832.11 in reply to 232832.10
Date: 12/14/2012 7:21:22 PM
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Yup, I'm one of those hyper offensive teams. Here are my top three guards. Notice that none of them have very good defense at all.

http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/45totcps6hm8ka1gawp52vl7rzlatu5oqq2asjspq3oz3g643m1w7cvq16ql.png
http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/rmz71s7l1r0hmf7fm4bgh23f5qvxnb84oy3gh2r8khhvnf1zb25jw0osgagu.png
http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/m6ltar3a6uf17cn02vlpcllkxzmhujv6g5rholhl5od4qqvkc6yehao4z0dl.png

It's probably good to invest in at least some defense, though.

Last edited by BLuJay at 12/14/2012 7:22:03 PM

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232832.12 in reply to 232832.11
Date: 12/15/2012 9:31:41 AM
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Scary tuff offense man. I have a couple of guys like that but i have one guy who is a stud at "D" more than his offense. I just challenged you for the scrimmage but dont expect a lot from my good guys. It heavily depends on mins. I have a BOT game tonight and Tues so they may need to get those extra mins playing back ups in the scrimmage.

Last edited by ForeverBallin at 12/15/2012 9:33:31 AM

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232832.13 in reply to 232832.12
Date: 12/15/2012 12:37:08 PM
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That's fine. My starters aren't going to be playing at all. They're going to get plenty of minutes playing against D-4 teams...I do have one injured starter. He might play in the scrimmage. Good luck with your team.

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232832.14 in reply to 232832.13
Date: 12/16/2012 4:53:53 PM
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Heres a young trainee i just purchased today. Is he worth training up and making a big time PG out of him?

Weekly salary: $ 2 765
Role: draws a paycheck
(BuzzerBeta)

DMI: 6900
Age: 19
Height: 6'4" / 193 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: average

Jump Shot: pitiful
Jump Range: pitiful
Outside Def.: respectable
Handling: average
Driving: respectable
Passing: average
Inside Shot: inept

Inside Def.: mediocre
Rebounding: respectable
Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: mediocre
Free Throw: atrocious

I know i need to train a lot for offense, but i am wanting him to be a stud defensively.









Experience: atrocious


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232832.15 in reply to 232832.14
Date: 12/16/2012 5:56:18 PM
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That Jump Shot and Jump Range don't look very pretty. His Outside Defense is good enough, and if you train Pressure, he'll probably be the best defender ever. I don't think he's going to be a big-time PG, but he'll be worth at least something as a defender. You're going to have to train a LOT of Jump Shot/Outside Shooting and Free Throw for him to be effective offensively. I can see this guy on a team that uses "Look Inside" though, because of that nice Outside Defense and Passing. I see that you bought him for only 2k, which is a darn good deal. I say train him for a while, and if he isn't popping fast enough, resell him for a bit of profit.

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232832.16 in reply to 232832.15
Date: 12/18/2012 6:00:22 PM
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So..The magic potion of finding the RIGHT trainee with a TON of potential??????? Needs to be a player at a certain appointed position to ALREADY have respectable or above in they're main areas???

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232832.17 in reply to 232832.16
Date: 12/18/2012 6:29:38 PM
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A ton of potential isn't necessary. Potential only affects salary cap, not growth rate. Star potential is good enough. It's nice to have Respectable or above in main skills already, but I think Inept is my lower limit. It's not a bad thing, but it's just so troublesome to wait for a trainee to pop from a stat like Awful. Your trainee is good. Just hope he gets pops.

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