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You don't have to train ID/IS/RB/SB for guards for several years in a row at a young stage.

This:
a) causes you to miss the fastest times to train up his actual guard skills
b) causes you to lose many games from playing him out of position

Instead:
a) train 2 bigs along with your 1 guard and play your guard during cup/scrimmage weeks
or
b) using your schedule, when you have a week with 2 easy games you will win regardless/2 hard games to will lose regardless/1 of each... use that week to train IS/ID/RB/SB for your 3 guard trainees

would a 3rd or 4th div player buy a C with 3 JS and 3 in PA? yes he would and he would get away with that without problems.
do u need a JR on C? no,do u need 20 on driving? i think not.
do u need PA over 7,8 absolutely not.
u took most extreme cases where people train only IS,ID and RB while all other skills are on 1-ofc u dont want that kind of player,but normal draftee ALWAYS have at least something in secondarys too.

I think you guys shouldn't take Wolph that literally; I think he's doing a good thing giving new players some advice. Now as with almost every advice that tries to change a view, it will be a bit exaggerated to prove a point. Don't take it too litererally, just try to get the point he's making, which is a good one; don't forget to train secondaries. He elaborates on that by giving more advice, that when training secondaries it's best to do it first, and then the primaries.

If everyone falls on the way he gives the advice, it will fall on deaf ears for others who read it and that could use the advice. Now I do agree that in general, good information/advice is hard to come by for new players. When I started I read the Guide to Buzzerbeater which was very helpful to get started, but it was only after I dug deeper in the help forums and played with the salary calculator when I started to understand how to play the game properly. The thing that puzzled me most is that searching the forums is a supporter-only function... Do we really need to advocate double posting the same questions over and over again as I imagine will happen?

So a suggestion; maybe a "Request mentor" button should be implemented, and experienced managers could volunteer to be a mentor and maybe get some kind of rewards for helping players through their first season (maybe add milestones for reaching the playoffs/finals, promoting, selling a player for X amount, building arena to certain stages etc). The requests will be redirected to mentors from the same country who then can accept it on first come first serve basis. That could really help new players, and give older players something extra to play for (coaching your new player and getting milestones/rewards for it would be worth it for me for example).

I'll post it in the suggestions forum if I get some good feedback here.

Training primary monsters is like growing an apple tree in your front yard, and buying apples from the grocery store. Any player you train should be unique in some way, whether its secondaries, or a specialization in one skill or another. Otherwise you are investing a lot of time into something that is easy to deal with for your opponents, and easily found elsewhere without spending the time on it.

Having said that, I think Wolph's being a little dramatic. There is no need to train a player for half his career out of position. 1-2 seasons at a young age should be enough to get the secondaries on any good trainee to a very good level.

The Training Simulator is a good tool for helping you figure out what training you want to do (if I do say so myself): (229484.1)

Yes and I agree with the points he's making, and I think new players could use that advice. You guys are all just falling for the way he says things, not what he actually means to say.

you are comparing guys with VERY good secondaries to guys with ONLY primaries. I think this is senseless because nobody who reads the forum is training only primaries.

rather you should compare a trainee (PF/C potential 7-8, height 6'8'' or sth, 5-6 seasons training, because i guess this is how the majority of trainees esp. for beginners looks like)

should he rather look like this:

12 / 8
10 /12
14/10
13/13
13/10

or like this

8 / 4
8 / 8
10 / 8
15 /15
15/ 10

well I guess my question isn't so smart, because in this case we compare a good C against a very efficient PF. but what i wanted to say is, that you have to find a good relation between secondaries and pimaries and not go over the top.

Last edited by jonte at 2/13/2013 4:52:19 AM