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246597.7 in reply to 246597.1
Date: 8/19/2013 2:45:41 AM
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At 188cm tall he is not going to be a jack of all trades SF.

Great effort to get him to Tremendous ID and IS.

He has to become an Outside SF, to develop to his best.

Passing needs to jump up 6 or 7 levels and OD up about another 4 levels.

Id be tempted to also push JR

Personally at 24 yo, I think hes going to struggle to develop quick enough to make the National team, but regardless hes worth persisting with and would sell for a mint

He has IMO enough ID & IS already to make it as an outside SF but I think his existing high driving and handling will become a salary problem by the time you get his passing upto anywhere near acceptable

There is some excellent developing SF Aussie talent about, from memory the offsite website has a list of developing SFs and their skills and no it doesnt include my 3

Wally is in that list on the offsite forum so he is obviously highly considered by NT scouts, but IMO Leigh Rieffel and Rueben Timoci might have Wally slightly shaded at this stage (with consideration given for age)

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 8/19/2013 3:25:05 AM

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Date: 8/19/2013 4:40:10 AM
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In my opinion - if you want him in the NT I'd go OD (to prod/stup, and hope for a bonus ID pop while training it), passing to prolific/sensational, then hammer his jump range/jump shot so he can be an effective outside SF, or hammer his IS to make him and effective inside SF.

Defense is nice and all, but the guy has got to have a solid scoring option as well, or he won't be picked I wouldn't think.

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Date: 8/19/2013 7:27:01 AM
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Pretty scary Mllama but you and I are pretty much identical in our assessments
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if you want him in the NT I'd go OD (to prod/stup, and hope for a bonus ID pop while training it

and OD up about another 4 levels. Tremendous plus 4 = Stupendous

passing to prolific/sensational

Passing needs to jump up 6 or 7 levels Mediocre plus 6 = prolific, Mediocre plus 7 - Sensational

then hammer his jump range/jump shot so he can be an effective outside SF

Id be tempted to also push JR


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Date: 8/19/2013 8:18:05 AM
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I love passing on all players but sometimes you don't have to make it too high, although double digits would be ideal. Anyways, this guy is a SF, how many guys in the world could possibly stop him if he had like 17+ IS and 17+ JS while playing at SF? I would get him a couple more OD and ID pops but beast his offence. Nobody will be able to stop him in your league games and he will be difficult to contain in the national games.

The national team has had some defensive SF but I've seen that offensive SF are more dangerous...

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Date: 8/19/2013 9:48:59 AM
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I love passing on all players but sometimes you don't have to make it too high, although double digits would be ideal. Anyways, this guy is a SF, how many guys in the world could possibly stop him if he had like 17+ IS and 17+ JS while playing at SF? I would get him a couple more OD and ID pops but beast his offence. Nobody will be able to stop him in your league games and he will be difficult to contain in the national games.

The national team has had some defensive SF but I've seen that offensive SF are more dangerous...



Judging by the offsite forum Australia is going to be blessed with some quality SFs in a couple of seasons time

With your concept of beasting up his offense and favouring offensive SFs, how important do you think JR is?

Duffill has played okay in the National team at SF , and he never had great JR

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Date: 8/19/2013 10:08:46 AM
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Now that is scary

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Date: 8/19/2013 11:43:21 PM
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Got to think of the game engine, tactics and opponent skills instead. Since when has JR been important in Look Inside and since when have JR been able to overpower OD easily?

If Look Inside wasn't so overpowered then Duffman would have mostly played at PF instead of rotating around SF/PF.

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Date: 8/20/2013 1:23:03 AM
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Excellent logic there Mr Whitebeard.

Personally im finding motion pretty good at the moment

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Date: 8/20/2013 6:39:23 AM
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Now that is scary :P



Rather than thinking the same, maybe we were both reading from the same "required skill list" ?

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246597.16 in reply to 246597.10
Date: 8/20/2013 7:10:51 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone. Here's what i think i'll do.

Play at PG for the foreseeable future with OD training till Prod or possibly Stup. If i get an ID pop then Yay! Also Passing which i may even do first as that will help the whole team if he is playing PG for the next season or so!


At that point I'll probably go back to JS or JR for 6-8 weeks and see how he sits in relation to the NT.

I've also got 60 odd draft points to spend so if i land a top notch talent i may alter this plan to work him in there as well!

I always thought he'd be a NT certainty by the time he was 26/27 but it sounds like that's not the case with a lot of other good prospects out there. Either way I've had a lot of fun training him and I figure i'll get a small fortune if I ever list him.





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I always thought he'd be a NT certainty by the time he was 26/27 but it sounds like that's not the case with a lot of other good prospects out there. Either way I've had a lot of fun training him and I figure i'll get a small fortune if I ever list him.



The fact that Wally is on the offsite website shows that he is highly regarded and I guess considered to be in the best 6 or 7 prospects for the SF position.

I have 3 SF trainees, none of whom feature in that same website, possibly because they are 2 or 3 years younger.

Its very hard to get a line through who is the most likely because of;
their varying ages
what the unknown future National Teams Manager preferences are going to be
their varying heights (which will impact training speeds)
the unkown about what impact any future game engine changes might have

At the very least your going to have a brilliant player who you could build a team around that could take you to the ABBL

Im a strong believer that a strong salary efficient SF is the key to promoting out of Div 2

Good luck, but not too much luck as I want one of my 3 SFs to get a gig in the National team sometime in the future