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From: E.B.W.

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Date: 1/12/2014 3:58:17 PM
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As many other people have said, you only need probably 8 players to dominate a league. Starters, backup guard, backup SF and backup big. More depth is nice too but is not necessarily needed. Team one would win 90+ of the games in my opinion.

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From: Rexapex

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Date: 1/13/2014 3:01:12 AM
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With all players having average stamina Team 2 is the better squad. All players having Proficient stamina Team 1 is the better squad. All players having awful stamina Team 1 doesn't win a single game in 100.

From: Isaiah

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Date: 1/13/2014 6:52:48 PM
Smallfries
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I have always gone 7 or 8 men deep, tops. No need to pay for depth when they don't play much anyways. If anything, have 7 men and then train 3 players so that by the end of the season you can have more depth if needed.

From: SammyO
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Date: 1/14/2014 1:16:22 PM
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Thank you all. I think mostly the same way leaning toward a 7-8 man team. But a couple things I noticed...

Lumber Jacks said said if all players have awful stamina- team 2 would be the better team. I have never really put much value on stamina. Do you guys agree that stamina can make that large of a difference between the teams?

Another comment by Platano, saying that a 60k pg at 9 game shape would likely outplay a 100k pg with 8 game shape. I knew game shape was important but would it make that much of a swing? Lets say is is a 60k pg 9 GS vs a 100k pg with 7 GS. Who do you guys think would have the advantage?

From: Big Dogs

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Date: 1/14/2014 8:48:19 PM
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Do you guys agree that stamina can make that large of a difference between the teams?


I think stamina can make that much of a difference, especially as the game begins to wind down.

Another comment by Platano, saying that a 60k pg at 9 game shape would likely outplay a 100k pg with 8 game shape. I knew game shape was important but would it make that much of a swing? Lets say is is a 60k pg 9 GS vs a 100k pg with 7 GS. Who do you guys think would have the advantage?


It depends on the skills, but it is very possible that a 60k PG at 9 GS outplays a 100k PG with 7 GS.

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Date: 1/15/2014 9:45:49 AM
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It depends on the skills, but it is very possible that a 60k PG at 9 GS outplays a 100k PG with 7 GS.


The part that's been left out of the discussion is also that it's very possible for a 60k PG to be a better player than a 100k PG at equal GS.

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Date: 2/7/2014 9:13:44 AM
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Considering the game shape for the full season ahead, Team 1 is only beneficial at the later part when there is no tournament game unless you are in a less competitive league like mine. And in today's BB style, high salary also does not guarantee wins. Like what Giannis mentioned, a SF with a full rounder stats capped at mediocre salary is much better than a high salary player who is not in his favored position. I will go with Team 2

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Date: 2/8/2014 10:33:21 AM
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As much as I love balanced rosters, I have to admit that team 1 would probably win the game, unless their starters had bad stamina.

With that said, team 2 is by far the team I'd prefer to own. Team 1 costs more money per week to maintain, plus in every single game you're playing a game of virtual Russian Roulette; one injury or even one foul-out and the wheels begin to fall off. Not to mention game shape issues, since your starting 5 constantly have to play 40+ minutes unless there's a blow-out, so even if you tank the cup for the season you're still significantly over the ideal.

Team 2 allows your starters to take more breaks, so even if they start both league games they'll still be at around 70 minutes, which is within the acceptable range. Foul-outs and injuries don't hurt your team nearly as much, and even if you prioritise the league for the season, you can still roll out a decent line-up for the cup games and advance a few rounds until some lowly upstart decides to crunch time you because he's suicidal or something :P.

My team right now is a great example of a 'balanced' team, albeit with lower salaries across the board than those mentioned in the OP. I'd like to point out that I currently have the 4th best overall record in my league, despite having the 2nd cheapest roster in the league and barely being above the salary floor...

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Date: 2/8/2014 2:50:55 PM
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but also balanced team costs way more to buy. Because you need fo example 10 instead of 5 players. And the reason why 5 is dominant strategy at the moment is because its the best economicly efficient strategy even considering taking risk losing games cause of 1 starter injury or few bad forms that week.

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