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There would be too many farm teams if you were allowed to create a second team in the same country. Imagine the Chinese U21 and NT...

Not concerned about farm teams to be honest. Mainly because I wouldn't mind seeing a few farm teams here! And it may have the result of leveling up the competition, considering I expect China already has farm teams, whereas we really don't.

China already has a number of farm teams and it makes them the best, most other countries probably have one or two. While allowing a second team would also allow the chinese to have more farm teams I think they already get most of their best talent so would see only a marginal increase whereas Australia would see a significant jump in its talent level.

For example, imagine if 10 Aus managers had a second team purely as a farm team. They have saved money over a number of seasons and have 1.5 mil each. This season 5 of them buy stud 18yo's, next season the other 5 do the same, and this is on top of the other draftees who are kept by their managers. Imagine the depth well organised countries would now have.

A secondary team couldn't be a farm team. Read the forum post about the proposed rules:

2. Country restriction: Secondary teams cannot play in the same country nor buy players from the primary team's original country.

which is a good thing

but people could do deals with other nations.

NT manager in country A gets a 10 managers to set up teams to train in country B
and then NT Manager of Country B gets 10 to do the same in country A

I know, that is under the proposed rules, but we kind of moved on to without some of the caveats as they are either too restrictive or don't make a lot of sense. Clearly the above highlighted rule is to prevent farm teams, however I think would actually be one of the big selling points of being allowed a second team

but people could do deals with other nations.
NT manager in country A gets a 10 managers to set up teams to train in country B
and then NT Manager of Country B gets 10 to do the same in country A

Those are some of the cons that could happen. People will always try to develop ways to get around a loop hole.

People who do not have supporter will contemplate now whether to pay that ~$40 for chance to start in a new country. This will bring in a bit more revenue for BB to help grow the game.

The question is whether I want to make a second team in a micro nation or a big nation like USA. I'll probably prefer USA over a micro nation. More competition, and more sense of achievement if I ever make it from div5 to div1.

I know, that is under the proposed rules, but we kind of moved on to without some of the caveats as they are either too restrictive or don't make a lot of sense. Clearly the above highlighted rule is to prevent farm teams, however I think would actually be one of the big selling points of being allowed a second team

If they did allow us to do that then I would definitely make a second team in a micronation. Dwell in div1 or div2 to hoard the cash whilst training some aussie trainees. 3mil for a top aussie trainee? No problem. 2mil for a level7 trainer? No problem. When the trainees salary jumps to 150k+? No problem I'll have enough revenue to cover the increased salaries.

Seems like flag chasing will be easier to achieve if a secondary team does come into effect. =P
Will you start a second team in Paskistan with a few other users in div1 or start one in USA with 2000 other users starting from the bottom in div5?

Country Users
#1 Pakistan 1
#2 Ghana 3
#3 Cymru 3
#4 Rep. Dominicana 4
#5 Barbados 5
#6 Ecuador 7
#7 Bahamas 7
#8 Tounes 7
#9 Việt Nam 7
#10 Saudi Arabia 8
#11 South Africa 8
#12 Costa Rica 8
#13 U.A.E. 9
#14 Azərbaycan 10
#15 Bolivia 10
#16 Hanguk 10
#17 Jamaica 10
#18 Malta 10
#19 Al Jazair 11
#20 Senegal 11
#21 Misr 11
#22 Lubnan 12
#23 Guatemala 12
#24 Hayastan 12
#25 Luxembourg 12
#26 Kazakhstan 13
#27 Macau 14
#28 Panama 14
#29 Ísland 15
#30 Paraguay 15
#31 Prathet Thai 16
#32 Puerto Rico 16
#33 Moldova 17
#34 Andorra 19
#35 Scotland 19
#36 Nigeria 21
#37 Al Maghrib
#38 Cyprus 24
#39 Shqipëria 26
#40 Nippon 26
#41 India 27
#42 Singapore 37
#43 New Zealand 43
#44 Ireland 48
#45 Colombia 52
#46 Perú 53
#47 Malaysia 61
#48 Crna Gora
#49 Norge 65
#50 México 67
#51 Österreich 70
#52 Iran 91
#53 Belarus 96
#54 Danmark 97
#55 Indonesia 98
#56 Makedonija 136
#57 Venezuela 139
#58 Sverige 149
#59 Chile 164
#60 Schweiz 172
#61 Sakartvelo 181
#62 Bulgaria 197
#63 Ukraina 203
#64 Nederland 205
#65 Slovensko 210
#66 England 240
#67 Uruguay 255
#68 România 260
#69 Česká Rep. 264
#70 Belgium 282
#71 Canada 285
#72 Taiwan 313
#73 Hrvatska 316
#74 Bosna i Hercegovina 320
#75 Slovenija 323
#76 Suomi 364
#77 Hong Kong 382
#78 Australia 385
#79 Latvija 436
#80 Rossiya 439
#81 Israel 478
#82 Brasil 516
#83 Philippines 569
#84 Argentina 697
#85 Eesti 701
#86 Portugal 738
#87 Magyarország 754
#88 Srbija 763
#89 Deutschland 772
#90 Türkiye 1 093
#91 Lietuva 1 379
#92 China 1 409
#93 Hellas 1 439
#94 France 1 797
#95 USA 1 987
#96 Polska 2 172
#97 España 2 645
#98 Italia 2 823
Total 30 804

Personally I'll probably start one in Wales (Cymru).

All i have to say is this.

If, back in season 11 or whenever it was i started playing this game, i found out after 4-5 weeks that, as a new user, I was battling in Div IV against Supporter user's '2nd teams'.... supporters who also have teams in the top leagues around the world, and have been playing the game for real life years longer than me.....

then there is
a) No way i would buy supporter
and
b) I would probably think "This is shite" and quit the game.

I remember when i started, finding out that I was playing against guys who had been around for 1 season more than me, made me feel crapola, challanging, and generally they buggered off, but i was a bit like 'hmmm well that sux' and it questioned why i would play the game.
so have a think about all the new users who will be starting, and playing against ur second team.

Well I think it's a great idea, the reason the micro nations are stuggling is because every time new players come on, they go "oh man it's all just bots" then they quit.

IF the active nations around the world can add to their nations active teams pool then it might make it more interesting for those people and they might stick around long enough for their tiny nations to build up at least a full league of active managers.

the restrictions on secondary teams seems to make it so having a primary team is of no benefit except you have prior knowledge of the game mechanics, that's really it.

I'm all for the idea and think it will be nothing but a good thing for BB in smaller nations.

I think if you look back through the history of just about every successful team here, sure they had good managers but they always had a lot of luck. Teams promoting when their opponents got injuries, used stupid tactics, went bot, teams that made a random killing on the TL, teams that were gifted an amazing player on their starting team or who drafted someone in the second round that they then sold for $5,000,000.

The best example ever was BC Tooroo. This team was the best team in the entire world. Won the B3 multiple tmes. When the manager moved to Brasil everyone assumed they would be back winning the B3 again in no time. The new team is called As Sucuris Comeram Torooo (32664) and despite playing in a smaller nation with just 500 active teams (in the ballpark of Australia) it took them from season 14-23 to make the top league. Then they went all out and finally won the Brazil National Tournament but only got four B3 wins. I am not saying this is bad, it is certainly better than I have done, but it is not like they just dominated their new nation from day one and they never even made the division one finals and are now back in division II.

Koop I like the idea of trying it out with the big boys. I would be joining you in the USA, just hope we don't end up in a division V with all supercompetitive teams run by experienced managers where we get stuck forever.