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I actually think people didn't train anything because the long time over sea managers where just doing good work with building players and selling them. I can not lie I bought a few, and re selling price for those if I sold them would bring me about 3 million in todays market. The draft didn't help teams in those times, So you had 2 choices train your self or buy them already trained. Buying was just the safest bet for team success. The money later down the line, the current wins.

But with so many over sea managers leaving and getting caught for farming. The market has suffered, its almost dead. I agree farming is wrong at the same time , it was part of economic climate of BB. Now we are seeing what BB really looks like. Nobody has any money or know how to create those player that those guys did on that level. I think that why they want second teams. it like this some people grow there own food and some go the supermarket and buy it. So in small there is real wrong way.

I would still tell a new manager to buy a player and then do the BB draft. It just make more economic sense the resale value is threw the roof right now.


My advice is if you have a good guard. Sell him . if have a solid back up in youth. The money is well worth it. You'll double your money, the new guys going to bring in money later and old guy sell has helped your roster budget 2-3 million. I did this it myself. Sold some already made player that I improved slighty from being bought a few season ago, got 1 million to my credits.

I didn't know you win by having the most money...

You buy all your players and don't train them properly and run outside offenses nearly exclusively with an old deteriorating roster. I draft for primary trainees, buy young secondary trainees, the occasional late 20's hired gun and have a balanced roster which can run nearly any offense or defense based on match ups. One of us is on the verge of promoting to D3 (in much fewer seasons for that matter) with a core which will stick around for a few more seasons, the other moving slowly while waving a fat wallet around like it means something.

Keep giving advice. I will be sure to do the opposite.

Ive been stuck with nine to ten players because i cant find somebody i really like that would make an impact to my team - last season was already high but it seems to be going higher. I expect monster salary prices to go down though like 120k and up - the economics of the game is taking over

I didn't know you win by having the most money...

You buy all your players and don't train them properly and run outside offenses nearly exclusively with an old deteriorating roster. I draft for primary trainees, buy young secondary trainees, the occasional late 20's hired gun and have a balanced roster which can run nearly any offense or defense based on match ups. One of us is on the verge of promoting to D3 (in much fewer seasons for that matter) with a core which will stick around for a few more seasons, the other moving slowly while waving a fat wallet around like it means something.

Keep giving advice. I will be sure to do the opposite.

So what I am reading is that if I were to collect up Mr. Glass' collected pearls of wisdom and publish: "My life among the bots: A near decade in thrashing the soulless in division V - a Rucker Bad Boyz production" that you would be among the first to buy a copy at a very fair $29.99? Excellent.

Money make this game go around. If you think other wise. Then Id advise you not do arena, I advise you just train youth and play them for what ever you get at age 32-43. See how far you get.? When was 2 division the top league?, the best play in B3 last time I check and 90% of those player are bought. Your simple out of context opinion is not going to change that fact. So yes I had the most money to play the tactics and thats why I win.

But the wise thing you misunderstand is I had the same team for about 10 season? It good to play judge judy and people court without asking the facts, I studied tactics in those time with a bad team . The game is based on who wallet is the biggest, sad but true. It does not matter if you train your players to be the greatest nt players in the history of BB again I say this. One day you will have to buy some players that are talented already trained to win. Its no other way around it, you think so. I laugh at the misguided thoughts of others on that point.

You need money to succeed and you need a positive balance in the bank account to succeed, training a player to be the best ever is just a bonus, training player will never keep you at the top unless your selling them t buy better players. If you don't have any money then you cant get that trainer. You need money to do arena. It don't matter the valid arguments, you cannot compete on the highest level, you need revenue to do so( money) . This why there is market to buy players. If its that such huge sin then get your keyboard hot and start typing Gm nicks about deleting it from the game.

If you don't have any money you cant get your team better or to the highest level. Buying player and training player go hand and hand. Why do we have revenue and all these stipulation on how much you can make and buy? Oh you say its to keep thing fair. Tell that to Ny Yankees and the miami heat.!! Or better yet on BB the best team in B3

On BB you might want to buy yourself some coffee and wake up to reality. Nothing fair on BB, only hard work to substain your team, which means making revenue and buying player when needed. Which mean make money!! And yes I had drink that same cup of coffee, until you do you will never understand. Nothing wrong with having money as long as you do it honestly. Because your going to need it.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/27/2014 8:12:33 PM

Mr. Glass>

I agree with your post here that money matters and an arena is important. However...
Luckily though the rules got adjusted this season and my trainees are actually more valuable then they used to be.
I currently have 4 homegrown players that I have added during the draft since season 20.
Luckily I put money on the draft since my first season and its paid off. In the long run it should result in 3 starters and a backup. Not bad IMO.

Three major changes that have happened this season though:
Trainees have become much more valuable and sought after.
Older players for some odd reason have become more expensive. I don't think this is a lasting phenomenon.
Trainers have become extremely expensive in comparison to last season.

I don't believe this adjustment to adding core trainees is a bad thing. I'm glad to see that this part of the game has become integral. As for previous seasons it really didn't matter that much if your goal was Div I titles. Now it matters.

Money make this game go around. If you think other wise. Then Id advise you not do arena, I advise you just train youth and play them for what ever you get at age 32-43.

I am. no expert. And my posts are, probably riddled, with grammatical errors; But please please please use senetance struchures!

Sadly that's as far as I made it before losing interest. Maybe I'll read the whole post next time if it were a tad easier to comprehend.

And yet, I make more money than you per game, have lower roster costs than you and a better roster. So tell me again what hording money is doing for you?

Since we have highjacked the thread (I apologize for initiating this thread highjacking, I just could stand to read another of Mr. Glass's ramblings without commenting), I should try to add something of value to the original post.

The addition of second teams could will likely cause player values to increase initially but then tail off over time and will likely result in more players available via FA. These managers of second teams will likely try to buy players and move up as quickly as possible though the ranks. However, these second teams are also more likely to train players at the same time than new managers, as most managers with second teams will be veterans of the game who have a better understanding for how training works. This will increase the supply of strong players in the long run and balance out FA.

Rising prices in FA can be a good thing, especially in conjunction with the over-extension tax, as these will both encourage managers to train their own players. In my opinion, this is where we get more people hooked to the game as they can build balanced players which expands line-up and tactic possibilities and makes the game more fun.

And yet, I make more money than you per game, have lower roster costs than you and a better roster. So tell me again what hording money is doing for you?

He's won far more games in V than you ever will. I find myself feeling that shame - he and I started the same season and he's put that way out of reach. Hopefully you can learn to cope with that inadequacy as I have. Good luck in III next season.

A second team is not my up too vote thing for BB, if you like that and think thats good. Then more power to you and hope you enjoy it. A BB veteran training youth players is nothing more than farming. No one said s/he had to win.

This game is about winning period. Raise prices is killing the game, yet and still they want lowers league team to slave train with trainer prices out of control. When guys from nbba and top leagues come to the forums saying a trainer going 2.5million minimum. How in hell is anyone going to train anything ? I say that in the topic not towards you personally in a vulgar manner.

They want us to train understandable, but where the comfort in the wallet,? No one was buying trainers like that. Same as for no one was doing shot blocking. If they want us to do training, ok but give team some comfort in the wallet, 1-5 season salary contracts , stop the weekly wages because they are not getting better in the craft just more expensive.

All the tax exmpt stuff just lead to buying better players, nothing more or less. Training and getting better with those youth is just a bonus. If a manager want to keep them and win that just a bonus. if they want sell one or two.. they will see big profits.

It just make better economic sense

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 1/28/2014 6:56:00 PM