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Ted and Stacey need to stop being cheap, and pay what the player is worth.

If they got him for 35K thats what he's worth.

If having the Reserve Bid for players is a problem, can we have it for staff?
The staff aren't being sold by players and you can't bid on another staff member of the same type until you've been outbid.
There should be no issue with adding this feature to staff.

So at the moment, you can actually do this.

If you see a player that you like, listed for $1

and you think he is worth buying for $100k. Then you can just place a bid at $100k

No difference to the idea of setting a maximum reserve.

If someone else comes along after you place your bid, and places a higher bid, then you don't get him. Just like your description with the maximum reserve.

The only difference is that there is no 'automatic incremental' that takes place.

Unfortunately its the nature of auctions. Not just in BB, but in real life! which sux, cause id love to buy a house in Detroit somewhere for $10.

I thought you couldn't do this as 'over bidding' is looked at like cheating. Also the incremental bid is important so that you don't have to over pay a player. This also helps regulate the market for players according to skill, potential, age etc.

So the overbidding is more oike if u bid $5m on a player who should only be bought for $10k.

If the transfer price estimate of a player is $200k, and u bid $300k , that isnt deemed as overbidding.

some people might think ur paying too much but thats debateable.

No difference to the idea of setting a maximum reserve.

If the maximum bid by someone else was (or would have been with autobid) 50k, it makes quite a difference.

Really? That's what you say but I'd rather not have any issues with BB especially since they warn you before you place your bid. If a player is listed at 200k and you bid 300k that is definite grounds for an investigation.

that is definite grounds for an investigation.

so there are 2 things here

a) Listing price
b) Transfer price estimate

Listing price is the price that the seller list's their candidate for. If you quickly look at the transfer market and do a search for players who are listed at less than $10, you will find lots of them. some listed at $1

So does that mean if i bid $40, thats cause for investigation? no. of course its not.

Secondly, the investigations are usually lauched based on the Transfer Price Estimate (TPE).

So for example

Transfer Price Estimate: There have been 24 recent transfers of 31-32 year old point guards with stupendous handling and any potential. Of these, the ones with skills most similar to Player X, have been selling for around $ 550 000 to $ 1 100 000

So as a seller, if i list this guy for $2m, AND someone purcahsed him for $2m, both parties would definately be reported.

if i listed him at $500k, but the bidding went to $2m, that would also probably be grounds for investigation.

But if someone bid, say, $1.2m, and someone reported it, BB would just dismiss it, because its within acceptable limitations of that salary.

Further to this, the TPE changes, and in 2 weeks time, the upper limit of the TPE could be, say $600k. Does that mean if the same $1.2m transaction occurs, that the transaction would be investigated?
maybe..... ?
but probablyn ot.

BB are only interested in transactions that greatly exceed common market trends. If a user reports another user because they think they are cheating, BB have mechanisms for proving this, which go beyond just looking at transfer price and listing price etc. But in general, the above scenarios apply.

Does that help?

Yes it does. However...

I don't ever want to have to worry about getting banned. If I am willing to pay 1.1m for a player it seems likely that I would pay 1.25 for him if I needed that player.

Why would multiple bids from multiple people be grounds for an investigation? Isn't an auction supposed to do exactly that? Isn't that what every seller is looking for, a bidding war? Also doesn't the market dictate what a player is worth? Why does BB dictate it? Why would people be investigated if someone lists a player for, in your example, 2m and someone else pays his asking price? These all seem like reasonable and most likely events to occur pertaining to transactions. Why would I ever want to worry about my actions when using the TL?

There is a difference between a 1k player selling for 10k and a 1.1m player selling for 1.25. It's called economic ratio. You could even argue financial ratio. Before anyone asks, I won't be explaining either.
Why is there a 550k gap in cost? Those players can't differ in skill THAT much. BB would certainly investigate that discrepancy. If I had to guess the reason for that large gap in price would be the number of people online during the end of auction.

If a seller can set a comfortable selling price (starting bid), why can't a buyer set a comfortable buying price? Also by raising by the minimum (1k) the TPE would not fluctuate so drastically. You would have a better idea of a players worth especially if you were thinking about selling a player.

There is no reason not to have an MRB. It benefits everyone in the game. Sellers and buyers. You don't have to worry about investigations. You don't have to worry about being stuck to the computer. You don't have to worry about overpaying for a player.
It helps keep the market balanced especially for the TPE. It helps keep the market competitive. It benefits BB as more people would sign up for supporter. All those reasons outweigh any negatives, if they are any.