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268213.7 in reply to 268213.6
Date: 3/8/2015 8:55:13 PM
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Then I think you are slightly misinformed, as many teams at the top can run a 10 man rotation and keep all their players in good GS, without training GS. Even if you are afraid of your starters getting too many minutes, for one of your league games you can just set them at a backup position instead, rather than not playing them at all. I looked at your best player's minutes and 4 of the last 5 weeks he has had 70+ minutes because you are playing him in scrimmages/cup games. Why not get him 70+ minutes in two league games opposed to 70+ minutes in one league game and a meaningless scrimmage? In my experience setting a player at the backup position (even if they are much much better than the starter) will only get 25-30ish minutes MAX and it is generally less than that. That means if you start them for one game and they get 36 minutes as the starter, and then set him as a backup for the other league game, it will be very very rare for him to get above 70 minutes.

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268213.8 in reply to 268213.7
Date: 3/8/2015 9:13:16 PM
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Not that simple when you then have to balance the rest of the teams minutes in a scrimmage after though, maybe fine for top teams running 10 man rosters but difficult to run a team like that in the lower divisions and maintain game shape.


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268213.9 in reply to 268213.8
Date: 3/8/2015 9:19:28 PM
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*sigh* okay, if you say so. I will respectfully disagree, but I have given my opinion and made my statements, so you can wait for more opinions from other people. I'm curious to see what they say as well! I appreciate your ideas on trying to improve aspects of BB.

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268213.10 in reply to 268213.9
Date: 3/8/2015 9:32:40 PM
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Not really a problem (if you read my first post) more something I realised seemed to be happening when i started looking at longer term numbers for individual players and thought could be improved but I guess we'll see if its just me that juggles minutes like that.

Sometimes the two bob attitude of established managers is pretty damaging to this game

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268213.11 in reply to 268213.10
Date: 3/8/2015 9:48:13 PM
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I apologize if my attitude came across as rude. That was not my intention. I was more trying to understand what your thought processing was for your lineup setting for your league games and scrimmages, as your method did not make a lot of sense to me... I always appreciate suggestions about the game and GS/minute issue suggestions are aplenty in BB, so you are not alone, in having issues (or seeing trends) with it. I personally do not think juggling minutes is as hard as sometimes presented, but I understand that many other people are on your side too. Once again, my condolences if I came across as a crude established manager, I was not trying to.

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268213.12 in reply to 268213.1
Date: 3/9/2015 5:57:56 AM
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I am on your side!

We should be able to play our best lineup every game - period. There's a reason LaBron plays like 40 minutes a game and Mike Miller and Shawn Marion are not.

There needs to be some space to have a decent bench AND maximize all your players potential. Now you have to decide if you want your players on top of the leaderboards or have decent gameshape.

My team is statistical leader in almost every category of the league, yet I have close to zero players in the leaderboards.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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268213.14 in reply to 268213.13
Date: 3/9/2015 7:46:47 AM
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I agree with E.B.W., it is absolutely possible to start twice a week your best players if the subs are good enough. Except possibly the trainees since we expect them to play a full game at 48 minutes already.


If starting equals 30mpg, then it is possible.

Players like Gortat average those minutes... Top players are around 36-38 mpg, which would hurt your gameshape longterm.

Maybe something like a three week rolling average could be a possible solution, so that you could bench your players (like the Spurs do it) in games that can be thrown or where the opponent is too weak.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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268213.16 in reply to 268213.15
Date: 3/9/2015 9:21:32 AM
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I have no proof of it, but there is that idea that GS is affected not just by one week, but the last few. I don't know either if 70-70-40 minutes weeks will give the same as 60-60-60, but that would be, indeed, a good thing.


There should be the possibility to play like 110 minute weeks without a GS hit too. So maybe three weeks would be even too low. Would definitely increase the interest in the Cup and lower the amount of thrown games in the Long run.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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