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actually I know that enthusiasm effects rating... that`s just logical...
any way thanks and we`ll see how this is working in few weeks... Hope there will be just difference in sub-levels, not again difference by 1-3 levels like it was...

That's great that you finally found the problem. One friend of mine told a few days after the release of the new engine, that BBs have probably forgotten to remove the ratings boost due to the old CT/TIE system... finally he was true from the very first moment!

About playing consecutive CTs: Maybe I did not explain it properly. I´ll try once more: Playing CT reduces the enthusiasm and thus the ratings related to enthusiasm: OK.
a) Playing CT with E=10 will reduce it to aprox. E=5, that's a very clear change in ratings.
b) Playing CT a second time with E=5 will reduce it to aprox. E=2.5, but ratings don´t follow the same decrease as in case a). They are lower but no so much.
c) Now you can play indefinitely CT without lowering the ratings.

This is probably a side-effect of the problem you have just found now. Because this rating boost of CT, somehow, is compensating the enthusiasm effect. Once your enthusiasm reach 2-3, even playing CT again, it will go back to 2-3 before your next match. But the ratings you get are not those corresponding to E=2-3, but those plus the "extra" CT boost, which are more or less similar to play with E=5 ratings. Of course, it depends on each particular team what this minimal ratings are.

I hope this time I has been precise enough.
Anyway, I think that after you solved the first problem, the second one will go away automatically... perhaps too late because now some teams have promoted by playing four consecutive CTs, and this extra CT effect does not affect all teams in the same way.

I see... i mean i think that's how its designed.... at some point CTing is not gonna reduce team spirit anymore.. you've bottomed out. I don't see it as a problem that teams can do this with no penalty, because they are being penalized.. they have low team spirit and if they didn't CT every game they'd have a higher team spirit and higher ratings because of it.... they aren't playing at their optimal level, so yes you can do that if you want to but its a bad strategy. at least we should design it so that its a bad strategy. That isn't to say that someone doing it should lose to every other team no matter what... but simply that a particular team would have done better to have done something else.

Of course, playing consecutive CTs with low E is a bad strategy.
But with the double CT effect (that has now been fixed), it was not as bad as intended by the designer. After this fix, we will not see anymore a succesful 5 consecutive CTs... you will see.