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289368.7 in reply to 289368.6
Date: 9/25/2017 5:14:52 PM
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That is assuming that there's randomness in every play. Obviously none of us know how the mechanics in the engine works, so there is no way to be sure. I just think that there's plenty of examples in the forums to prove that there's a random factor.

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Date: 9/26/2017 6:12:02 AM
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Very bad for bot games, but sufficient for ones with active users. For example, it may have a source in sublevels of XP if 1st player in squad, so in bot games it will almost always generate the same result (bot players don't gain XP), but in normal games it almost always generates different numbers.

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
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Date: 9/26/2017 6:46:08 AM
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Random Factor in software is not really a "random" number.
It's called "pseudo-random" and it can be retrieved always by an algorithm.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generato...)

I don't know where BB find the "random factor" but there is a probabilty it takes the same. This can be noted more on two consecutive games. played with same tactics and so on.



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Date: 9/26/2017 11:18:31 AM
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It's almost certainly tied back to the two games ending up played using the same seed for the RNG. Actually, that sounded like a familiar topic and I found a couple of old threads, but the one I remember personally was from 2014 where this was discussed:
(263046.1)

If they're using the ticks from epoch method to generate the random seed number, the chances of something like this occurring should be as near to non-existent as is possible. So now that I look back, it's not a random seed issue as much as it sounds like there's either an issue with the implemention of the RNG in C++ or maybe some obscure cached data that is causing it to pull back cached results rather than run new ones. In any case, it sounds like it's trying to find a freckle on an angel dancing on the head of a needle inside a haystack where you're only told the haystack is somewhere on Earth. It's possible, but I don't envy anyone trying to sift through that.