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Accidentally deleted my message. Those are all viewer bugs that are well documented and people have reported multiple times.

Possessions lasting 40 seconds are nowhere to be seen in the pbp so it's a viewer problem.

FT shooters being subbed out before making the FT is also a viewer problem (actions all happen at the same second of the game, but they are reported in the wrong order in the viewer).

Some blocks are reported as misses in the viewer, but they are shown correctly as blocks in the pbp (and the team detail page during the game).

The steals problem is somewhat different as it would require to change the feed of both the viewer and the pbp from 'player x strips the ballhandler and comes up with a steal' to 'player x strips player y and comes up with a stead' or from 'player x intercepts a pass' to 'player x intercepts a pass by player y'. You could even just add a line for turnovers as you have for assists, the information is available, it goes into the boxscore and you can see the turnover in the team detail page in the viewer, it's the feed that is lacking in this case. There may be more stuff. I'm asking about the steal issue because it is the only things that is missing to build a boxscore from the pbp.

I assume that the pbp is actually the source of the viewer's feed (together with information on the shot location).


In any case the most pressing matter is what happens to the viewer when flash is not supported anymore. It would be nice to have some feedback on this.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/5/2019 7:55:15 AM

Maybe we can have something a bit more modern like Silverlight.

Just get the app out already

Try reading that again. I explained it twice. I said play by play both times.

You can integrate the play by play with the boxscore data on Turnovers and you will still not know who stole the ball from whom. The only way to know this is opening the viewer and checking the team detail page.

There is no reason to withhold this information.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/9/2019 6:36:22 PM

I think people underestimate how important the viewer is. Even those who never use the chat, often log in and keep an eye on how the game is going. This is why you have a peak of people online at the time games are being played. You take that away and the whole game will not be the same.

I think there is no problem at all untill browsers stop to support flash player.

If adobe stops supporting flash player it means they will no longer update it. So everything sticks the same. Technology the same, the same bugs (if any). It is even possible to make new viewer using not supported technology. No problem at all.

It does not mean it wont work. It will, just like microsoft stopped windows xp support. Windows xp still works. Just technology never advances and you get compatibility issues way further in the future than the innitial stop of support.

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 6/10/2019 7:33:12 AM

The thing is, the viewer already does not work on mobiles unless you use puffin which is bad in its own right. If they are doing the app they may as well work on a new viewer that have also mobile compatibility.

I may be wrong but my understanding is that the viewer just displays a feed of a game that has already been simulated. That wouldn't change, so I believe it's just a matter of translating that feed with a visual tool (a new viewer).