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Will the coaches not following orders ever be acknowledged?

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302354.7 in reply to 302354.1
Date: 11/29/2019 6:18:58 AM
Woodbridge Wreckers
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I actually had a bad one yesterday too (108475909). Dressed 7, starting C injured after 1 minute so only 1 sub. With 4:35 left, my starting SG (actually a decent PF) is on the bench. His backup is a 19 TSP scrub, who is playing at SG. The backup C (who is playing the full game due to the injury) is a 10 TSP scrub with 2 stamina and plays at C. He gets fouled, so can't be subbed. Coach brings in the starting SG who's on the bench, at PF where my 51 TSP (1 stamina admittedly) trainee is set to play 48 minutes. Not at SG where he's supposed to play and a weaker player is playing than my trainee at PF, and not at C where the worst player is playing (because he's shooting FT's, even though you could sub him after the 2nd make).

Though I understand why this happens with the current functionality, it's very unwanted behaviour indeed. Yes, there are workarounds but they have big drawbacks. It just shouldn't need to happen.

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Last edited by Jeründerbar at 11/29/2019 6:19:48 AM

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Date: 11/29/2019 7:04:20 AM
Dynamo J. Hradec
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After all the time it's present and generally known on BB, it's rather a feature than a bug;-)

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302354.9 in reply to 302354.8
Date: 11/29/2019 10:17:36 AM
BC "EDI"
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Same here, can't say how many threads have I've opened like this. Last week my trainee got subbed out with 1:04 left on the clock, 1 minute shy of 48.

It's definately a bug, everyone just got so used to it and noone seems to care.

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302354.10 in reply to 302354.9
Date: 11/29/2019 11:59:33 AM
Bc Siauliai
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Still, you lose just 10-20 percent(I don't remember correctly) of maximum training, so it's not such a big deal.

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302354.11 in reply to 302354.1
Date: 11/29/2019 12:02:18 PM
Tampines Fusion
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I wonder if stamina could be the problem? It's pretty late now so I wouldn't really dig through my games in the past. But iirc I had plenty of games where I set orders for a few players to play for 48 minutes and none of them got subbed with the substitutes of other positions, even when I win big. Granted, I have always ran patient because I don't want my players to be subbed due to stamina issues.

Not sure if my latest match is a good example since I just dressed 6 players, but everything went accoding to plan despite wining by 55 points: (108668648)

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302354.12 in reply to 302354.10
Date: 11/29/2019 3:58:31 PM
BC "EDI"
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I remember that number being lowered a lot. And by a lot I mean like 30% of a full training. Nobody knows exact I guess.

As far as stamina question - I feel like not that many youngsters have 6+ stamina, but never noticed a correlation looking at other positions.

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302354.14 in reply to 302354.11
Date: 12/2/2019 2:03:50 AM
Kira Kira Koseki
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Stamina is indeed the main issue here. Between two draftees I've had for over four seasons now, one with 6 stamina rarely gets subbed out when I don't want them to, whereas the one with 3-4* stamina is a lot more likely to be. My argument is that, if the lineup sheet specifically says to 'strictly' follow the depth chart, and we're winning by enough to remove any reason to go rogue for the sake of winning, stamina shouldn't be the issue that it is.

*level 5 nutritionist resulted in an eventual pop despite not training stamina.

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Date: 12/2/2019 4:42:06 AM
Tampines Fusion
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Glad to know nutritionists gives stamina pops. I would certainly appreciate it rather than waste training weeks on stamina.

That said, can't be playing RnG or LI and expect your player who's gasping for air to continue playing right? It would be different if it was patient or Princeton, where the slow pace would not only allow your players to last longer. I've always stuck with these two if there are situations which I need to have 48 minutes on a trainee, and it hasn't failed me yet iirc.

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Date: 12/5/2019 12:27:35 PM
BC "EDI"
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Update:

My youngest played 44 mins, got subbed with starting C (???), couple minutes later, subbed back in after center got 5th foul. Youngster had 5 aswell.

Before you ask about stamina - its 4, but my year long trained player Hsiao has 4 aswell and never had that issue, even this week.

Strictly follow plan, all gaps filled, yada yada yada. It's something about fouls and I know its a bug

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302354.17 in reply to 302354.16
Date: 12/5/2019 7:00:15 PM
Tampines Fusion
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Got a point there, especially since you played patient, I doubt stamina mattered much in this particular game.

I decided to look back into my games from last season, and yes, you might actually have a point in it, because the only time I ever failed to get a full 48 minutes on a player meant to play the whole game last season (barring foul outs) seems to be when he had 5 fouls. Pretty sure he wasn't meant to be subbed since he's a trainee. I probably didn't notice coz he got enough minutes from other games I guess. So yes I guess you're onto something there.

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