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NT injuries: do they ever last?

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39702.7 in reply to 39702.2
Date: 7/21/2008 8:38:34 PM
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Are you serious?

I thought it was a known fact that NT games are Arcade, similar to PL.

You cannot put injured people on the field and people cannot get injured due to that game.

Not only is it not a known fact, it's not even true)

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39702.8 in reply to 39702.6
Date: 7/21/2008 8:43:27 PM
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Oh please give me the option to call back my player' then, because that is ridiculous.

I remember correctly that last year was a debate about the wages being compensated when a player was in the NT.

People did not get their wages refunded, because it simply was a pure arcade type of game. They did not get experience,minutes, rating or injuries. And that was the main argument of the BB for not refunding the wages.

People said fine, if it's pure arcade then why not. And so far it has been that way.

Either the rule should be corrected, or we should get the option to not let our players play for the NT. Or get experience and wages refunded. And we should get an apology from the BB' and the GM' for making me and other people who participated in that debate believe that the NT was a PL-Arcade kind of game.


Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 7/21/2008 8:45:47 PM

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39702.9 in reply to 39702.7
Date: 7/21/2008 8:43:51 PM
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In Riceball's defense, he and I can be both right. NT injuries could be all in arcade mode right now, and it might be well-established (I don't know everything)... that's why I started the thread.

Anyway, back to the point... anyone have any evidence of an NT injury lasting longer than the game?

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39702.10 in reply to 39702.8
Date: 7/21/2008 8:45:54 PM
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So a BB said that? Maybe the bug is to fix the rules. In any case, something is inconsistent.

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39702.11 in reply to 39702.9
Date: 7/21/2008 8:48:49 PM
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If there is indeed evidence that there is an injured player around due to an NT game, i would recommend the owner of that player start a debate on Wages and Experience and the option to allow the player to play for the NT.

Because it;s simply not worth it right now to let a player play for the NT, if it was indeed true.

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39702.12 in reply to 39702.10
Date: 7/21/2008 8:52:31 PM
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If the GM' speak on behalf of the BB's, and i assume they do, yes.


Atleast 3 GM's said that there was no need for refund of wages and a bonus for Experience, because the games were Arcade based. They said they shouldn't reward the managers more than just bragging rights.

And i'm sure Juicepats was one of the GM' who participated in that debate, if that counts for anything.

:Edit: I slightly remember a BB being involved, not really sure though. Atleast we got convinced that it was okay to not get wages refunded.

Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 7/21/2008 8:56:10 PM

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39702.13 in reply to 39702.12
Date: 7/21/2008 8:55:45 PM
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If the GM' speak on behalf of the BB's, and i assume they do, yes.


I don't want to get this discussion sidetracked, but in general, GMs speak for themselves. If they're speaking for the BBs, they should be clear that they're speaking officially, and not as just a user.

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39702.14 in reply to 39702.13
Date: 7/21/2008 9:02:41 PM
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I really hope Gm's refrain from speaking for themselves when the topic is concerning the game itself. I mean we are suppose to get clear and true information from the GM's of the game... kinda unprofessional, if they are not really sure themselves when they give their answer.


Anyways, i'm pretty sure it was official, otherwise i wouldn't have accepted the no refund/no experience deal.

Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 7/21/2008 9:03:29 PM

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39702.15 in reply to 39702.14
Date: 7/21/2008 9:07:19 PM
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There is most definitely experience awarded for playing in NT games. It's likely not more than you get from a league game, but the chance to get injured is not higher, either.

From what I remember, Juice is on the record saying that NT games are not played in arcade mode. But even so, GMs do not develop the game, so as knowledgeable as they are, their info is not first-hand and should be taken with a grain of salt, albeit small.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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39702.16 in reply to 39702.15
Date: 7/21/2008 9:23:04 PM
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Okay, let me ask you this.

How is that fair to the managers?

First of all, we risk that our players will get injured for weeks. We get no real bonus whatsoever for letting them play, except maybe the experience, which is ever so slight.
We get no refund, because the players wouldn't get any negative effect of the games therefor they didn't feel the need to compensate the downside of the NT games.
We get no say if the player will or will not be in the NT.

I highly doubt that managers would accept:

Experience > No control over Player, Chance of Injury, No refund, No minutes.

Because i wouldn't.


Last edited by Legen...Riceball...Dary! at 7/21/2008 9:26:31 PM

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39702.17 in reply to 39702.16
Date: 7/21/2008 9:34:09 PM
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There is an easy, simple way to deal with the issue: sell your national player, purchase player of the same strength that is not an NT player, and stash the rest of the money. Or never buy a player with a flag.

I can tell you right now that withdrawing a player from the NT will never be an option for gameplay reasons.

I agree that it is probably reasonable to receive a wage refund for each week of injury. This is not available right now. Tough.

I think most managers would be against getting training minutes from NT games. It is hard enough to have your best players play significant minutes in all competitive games as it is.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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