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71365.7 in reply to 71365.5
Date: 2/6/2009 3:05:57 AM
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Not logical to beat a team twice, have same record and lose tie breaker. everything else shouldn't matter. It's a head to head game, so logic dictates that head to head should be the tie breaker.

How would you deal with a three-way tie?

Team A beats team B.
Team B beats team C.
Team C beats team A.

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71365.8 in reply to 71365.7
Date: 2/6/2009 4:45:31 AM
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As a tie, in which case you go to points defferencial (in these 3 matches).

I agree that ignoring the head to head score is not too logical.

Even if you decide that points difference should be considered the main parameter, surely, the head to head score should be more important than the total ammount of points you have, (which depends not only on your quality but on your tactical preferences).

Still, I understand that according to the current parameters, calculations are much easier, and the needed algorithm is much simpler, and since currently, in most cases there is no falsification, the change of parameters is not too necessary, or urgent

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71365.9 in reply to 71365.8
Date: 2/6/2009 5:37:42 AM
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As a tie, in which case you go to points defferencial (in these 3 matches).

I agree that ignoring the head to head score is not too logical.

And the "easy and logical" system just got one step more complex than the current one. This is really not criticism of what you guys are suggesting (although I know it sounds exactly so). I tend to agree that the head-to-head result is important. At the same time, the system should be kept as simple as possible. From the staff point of view, this is somewhat of a concern for me. In real life, we have commentators and journalists to tell everyone who wins a tie. In BB, everyone needs to figure it out themselves based on the rules and based on what they see, and in the end this leads to many many questions on the forums.

Of course, the head-to-head result is never ignored. It's part of the point difference calculation and clearly gives an advantage to the team that won both games (in case of two-way tie). I have no clear opinion whether that's good enough.

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71365.11 in reply to 71365.10
Date: 2/6/2009 6:33:17 AM
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The arguing was about tiebrakers within a conference I think it was crystally clear.

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71365.12 in reply to 71365.11
Date: 2/6/2009 8:02:38 AM
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so you want another tie breaker in the finals? Thats not that consistence and logical or not? It is still confusing, that the same tiebreaker means two different things in rules, for the relegation and PO.

And the tiebreaker should reflect, the league games which aren't just the two betwenn the both teams. It about the overall performance during the season and for that, the point differential makes sense in my eye, and the team who wins the head to head comparison got also an advantage.

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From: ignots
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71365.13 in reply to 71365.12
Date: 2/6/2009 9:32:23 AM
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If point differential matters, why does my coach take out the starters when I'm 20+ points ahead after 3 quarters. Many times this has turned a blow out, into a close game. In fact, I nearly lost a game last season, up by 22 going into the 4th, had to make a last second shot to win. So PLEEEEEZE, change this, if point differential matters, which clearly it does matter.

My last league game, had a 24 pt lead after 3, bums came in and made it a close game, only won by 9. So I gave up 15 pts in point differential, just because it was a blow out? Makes no sense to me.

Last edited by ignots at 2/6/2009 9:46:04 AM

From: Kukoc

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71365.14 in reply to 71365.13
Date: 2/6/2009 10:47:12 AM
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Your subs suck then:) Yes there should be option to choose do you want a margin win or not.

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71365.15 in reply to 71365.12
Date: 2/6/2009 11:57:10 AM
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I wasn't supporting any change... I was just making clear that the initial post was about conference tie betweeen two and more teams. I believe that everyone is sane enough not to want head-to-head match as a tiebraker between or among teams from different conferences. I support point differential as the first kicker.

From: docend24

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71365.16 in reply to 71365.13
Date: 2/6/2009 11:59:25 AM
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Improve your depth. This is the same for everyone. There are tactics to run up the score - and there is a suggestion thread about it in suggestions.)

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71365.17 in reply to 71365.16
Date: 2/6/2009 3:09:17 PM
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they are subs for a reason, rite?

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