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Is the Belgian top league so poor ?
All BBBL teams have to look the wages not to rise too high.
Top players (see SSS) have to disappear to arrange the finances.
And then I see the opponent of the cowboys...(Hostivar)
How do they get that money to pay the salaries ?
Do we receive (here in Belgium) as much money as in other countries ?
Are those teams (like hostivar) walking to their doom ?
Is there anything we can do in Belgium to close the gap ? (it would be nice for the national team also)
How can we ever pay over 900 000 every week ????

Of course...this is in Belgium for everyone the same.
Compared with the second,...third...division we can not complain.
But a Belgian World Champion would be nice....


Last edited by ppmmp at 2/15/2011 11:14:28 AM

i've been wondering the same thing. but i think that the reason why they can pay so much is because of 1 main reason. NT players in their top divisions.

if i'm correct ( if not LoD or Angi will most certainly correct me) having NT players has 2 advantages:

1) if helps you out weekly with your merchandise ( especially if the player is from a NT that wins alot of games and is high on the world ranking order)

2) (I'm unsure about this, but you could call it having a hunch about it being right) NT players influence the TV rights of the league.

If you compare the BBBL with alot of other top divisions, then i can't help but notice that we much less NT players in our division. Sure, they often eat up alot of salary, but in most cases, they are much better than most other teams...

Other than Vottems 2 internationals, Hupez in Sonics, a South Korean guy with the Wizzards, Terrible (Malta) for Ventola, an Austrian and Cymru international for Popo, and a belarusian guy for Pokola, we got no others.

now if we look at it, how many of those guy's are in top NT's on the world ranking list? none.

of all those internationals, the best ranked one are the belgians... (currently 45, we started this season at 57 :D)

IF you look at the top B3 teams, they often have NT players of their own country, and if it's not from their own country, it's from a top NT country ( Lubnan team in the B3 has 2 top french players...) (horstival 3 internationals, 2 of their own country, River legends, 3 internationals, all of his own country, ...)

Also, another difference, is that the average salary of the top divisions in Italy, England, France, Spain etc are higher than here. if everyone has more Salary, then that should mean that everyone should have a better team ( no need to buy monoskilled monsters...) and i was told a few day's ago, that TV rights would be linked to the average salary of each team in that division.

now, i'm basing this on the TV rights in my own division. Alot of divisions lost a 5 to 10% in TV rights comming into this season. however, in my season, yolymapa bought a 620k C (little mistclick) but during the calculation of the TV rights, that C was not only a NT player for a rather good country, but it also made the average salary ( and that of Yolymapa in particular) go up for the whole division when TV contract was calculated, and thus, II.3 seems to be one of the very few divisions who didn't lose alot ( if you could call 176$ a week a loss) on their TV rights.

So, in the event that the belgian NT keeps winning, and qualifies for the european championship, then our NT ranking should go up. Not only that, teams with a NT player should get a higher Merchandise, since their players are winning games on the NT lvl.

So it's no use to go and buy all the internationals of teams such as Malta, Luxembourg, Senegal or what not. You'll need to buy players of NT teams ranked within the top 25 or so. Ofcourse, players fo top 25 NT teams often mean alot of salary.

but they do provide a serious extra to your economy (and to your divisions economy too).

It's just a theory that i have, but it could explain the difference how they can cope with so much salary. ofcourse, i'm not 100% sure of what i wrote here. but i got the impression that it is like that. their isn't another way to explain why on earth they have much more salary. Hostival has had 800 to 900k salary for the past few seasons now. So did Former BC Töroo.

again, it's just a theory. though i might as well spit it out, and see what you guy's think of it. if you can provide me with another explanation, feel free to, but it seems to make sence.

LA-Revo

true, patience is the key.

if anyone tries to rush things, he will blow himself up, and the teams trying to follow him.

In Belgium teams have been comming in, and going out of the BBBL in high rate until season 6.
Then the BBBL teams started to stabilise.
If they keep their cool and keep creating steady growth, they'll get there as well.

for NT players we have about the same story. In Belgium it took 4 seasons longer then in the first established countries to get their players traied and managed decently.

And a last thing: personally I think that in Belgium arenas have been build to late. When entering the BBBL, a team should have an arena of at least 15k, building it up to at least 20 in the next 2 seasons. This hasn't happened for most teams, and it means loss of money that can never be recuperated.

Add this all together, and it seems the gap isn't that wide after all.

Thank you all for te reactions....

We have 85000 for merchandising...pfffffffffffff
I did'nt know it could be that much more...

And now Belgian players.
There are not that many good players in our country.
So I have to be patient...

So we can close the gap.....
It's up to us.....BBBL teams.

Thank you all for te reactions....

We have 85000 for merchandising...pfffffffffffff
I did'nt know it could be that much more...

And now Belgian players.
There are not that many good players in our country.
So I have to be patient...

So we can close the gap.....
It's up to us.....BBBL teams.

2 options:

1) either you train one yourself, from the age of 18, and make him play in the cup ( first training will be 100% on defence, so OD or ID training) if you are lucky, you'll be able to have a lvl 9/10 OD/ID on the player when almost all bot teams (IV and V division teams) have been eliminated. and a PG/SG with a lvl 10 defence isn't that bad yet, and get minutes a bitt everywhere...

bitt i'll admit that for this to be succesfull, a BBBL team would need alot of luck in the cup draw.

or

2) inform the Belgian NT/U21 staff which position you'd like to train, and if possible, provide him with information about the guy's you might already be training. that way, as soon as a Belgian player would be released to the TL ( because of the team going bot/needing to sell him for something else) then the someone from the NT/U21 staff could easely inform the people who would like to take over a player, that their is a player on the TL.

ofcourse, this requires that that team would keep cash available for a longer periode of time... but then again, as LoD pointed out, if you rush into things, you might end up losing more than you gained...


right now, i have been informed that one of our NT players will need to move at the end of the season. it's concerning a Centre, and that particular centre has reached his cap, so doesn't require any training any more. all you need to do, is keep his GS good. i'm not gonna give away the skills of possible ( or current/passed) NT players, unless if i know that the manager would like to sell him in the futur. in that event, i contact the guy's of who i know that they have room and would like to get ( and preferably train) the player.

right now, their are 3 guy's on the TL who could be a NT player if they are trained a little more... i have contacted all the guy's who i know that might want to retake them, but none have the room/cash right now.

this post might need to be put in the general belgian forum, but since the subject was brought up here, i though i'd post it here.

LA-Revo

ps: i can't give links of names on the forum, as those 3 players aren't on the NT squad right now, and thus, i can't advertise for them. if interested, i'd say, mail me.

Hostivar made fortunes in the Transfer market...

so he is not a good example on how to financially manage your team.

I think if you have a good run in league and cup and beat your opponent twice and win all TV games, you can have a 800-859k salary...

Last edited by Astragoth at 2/17/2011 11:35:44 AM