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From: Mr J

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Because I understand the game, I've some experience and I know what I'm doing: I am not a newbie that will need to get babysitted permanently in order to avoid a super screw up.


I'm still waiting to hear your 'vision'...your 'plan'...hell, anything that remotely resembles why you should be the next U21 NT coach and what your plans are other than not listening to anyone. This isn't a personal attack, mate. When you put your name in the hat you must surely expect to be questioned about your plans for the team? Yes? No?

I don't know you, ezilife. I don't know what you've done. I don't know what you can, will and won't do. for all those mangaers reading this who have no idea who is who and what they've achieved...what do you say to them? Why should they vote for you?

Are these not valid questions?

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http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...

I have set up a suggestion thread for getting a federation or private forum for NT teams.
Anyone keen should head over and post your support for the suggestion.


From: ezlife

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I was just as enthousiastic as you are a few seasons ago when I coached the SA U21 NT. But today I'd answer no, these are not valid questions. When people wonder what you've done, they'll most likely check out your team and your results. I doubt that the majority will read your autobiography.

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i might add you dont really need to win all 5 or 6 of those games you only need to qualify to the next stages and thats when the games and winning start. By the looks of it though you would want to come either second or third depending on who comes first and were certain other teams come in each group. Worked well for me anyway

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From: Mr J

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wheres the rest of the 18yr olds?

Well i wont be voting for a manager that cant get the skills of the u21 and potential u21s up on the site. As a very keen trainer its something that is lacking currently and has been disappointing for a while.

I also know (from making contact with dozens of trainees last season) that many managers have been keen to hear "how is my trainee tracking". Someone willing to stick their neck out and tell them would be well received. I tried last season, with both a potential team, and a top 5 rating last season for the guards. I think the managers that saw how their trainee compared to others showed them things they needed to see to better their own trainees.



I saw your posts in the Wombat thread and could have commented but plenty already were. If I've got nothing to say I'll say nothing. If I had something of value to add to what other managers were saying, I would have said it.

As for your dig at my inability to 'get the skills of the U21 and potential players'...it's not that I don't know where to get them or even how to get them but haven't yet...I'd like to say I always have everything at my fingertips to keep you and others happy but I haven't...

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As I said we would need to work out our needs before those last 2 games and decide how we want/need to play them.


Last edited by Mickyster at 6/12/2013 8:15:52 AM

From: Mr J

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I was just as enthousiastic as you are a few seasons ago when I coached the SA U21 NT. But today I'd answer no, these are not valid questions. When people wonder what you've done, they'll most likely check out your team and your results. I doubt that the majority will read your autobiography.


So is it just 'my' autobiography that offends you, mate, or does Mickyster's autobiagraphy posted today that also meet with your distaste?

So, because you no longer have any enthusiasm you would taint that of those who do? You spoke of looking solely at results as the only indicator of success. I guess that is where we differ. Where you see two terms in the job as merely a 'job' to do, I see it as an opportunity to organise for the future while still doing the 'job'.

From: ezlife

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Maybe I should mention that I have a theory:

Nobody cares about what you post. People will eventually check out your team, which includes players, results and history. Then they'll see how cool your nickname sounds. Finally they might check if you're somewhat active on the debate thread, no matter what you post. From this they'll vote for a manager.

So basically, I'll drop a word here from time to time until the election's deadline and see where it takes me. I gotta test it :P

However, I promise you I'll be ready if I accidentally get elected.

From: Mickyster

To: Mr J
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I agree Mr Green
If it was just a results driven result we should just give the job to whoever has the highest country ranking for their team. And form that Latino should of got the result last time instead of Iwen. Guess that idea is a bit off.........

From: Trikster

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However, I promise you I'll be ready if I accidentally get elected.

I think this line gives an insight to your campaign

From: ezlife

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pretty much =)

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