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From: Lemonshine

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Probably the players who were more affected are the ones with extremely high secondaries.
Chaperon dropped 20k in salary and he still has 20 IS. We need some clarifications, because, as Falke said, it looks like big men with good secondaries went up in salary and guards with 20 IS went down...


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Probably the players who were more affected are the ones with extremely high secondaries.
Chaperon dropped 20k in salary and he still has 20 IS. We need some clarifications, because, as Falke said, it looks like big men with good secondaries went up in salary and guards with 20 IS went down...


Probably a miscalculation and a recalculation is necessary. Wouldn't be the first time this happened.

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Date: 12/7/2016 12:49:28 PM
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Guards with 20 IS and 38yo who have dropped several skills during the season.
I would have expected a salary far below 50k with the old formula.
If you find a guard with 33 or less years and 20 IS who has less salary than last season, then I will agree with you that something went wrong.

From: Lemonshine

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Guards with 20 IS and 38yo who have dropped several skills during the season.
I would have expected a salary far below 50k with the old formula.
If you find a guard with 33 or less years and 20 IS who has less salary than last season, then I will agree with you that something went wrong.
The problem could be that Chaperon is in the SF formula and not in the guard formula right now (which means the changes to the guard formulas are not big enough to return him to a guard formula), but if someone thinks that a 126 TSP player should have a sub 50k salary then we have bigger issues.

I hope you or Marin can clarify what is the extent of the changes and what's the final goal in the new season News.

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Date: 12/7/2016 6:02:57 PM
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I really think I'm missing something here. Chaperon's salary is higher than it should have been with the old formula, and that's what was intended. He has not enough passing and not enough jump range to change his position from SF (from my point of view)
On the other hand, when the changes were announced, it was clearly said that it was not going to be dramatic and that most teams won't even noticed it so I'm not sure what you have expected.
In fact there were several complaints talking about how this measure would kill some teams and destroy their long plan terms...

if someone thinks that a 126 TSP player should have a sub 50k salary then we have bigger issues.


Well, you have some examples in the transfer market where you can see that last season there were players like that and that now they have a not dramatic salary increase (I'm assuming that they were not trained with 32 years, though)

From: Lemonshine

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it was clearly said that it was not going to be dramatic
That's true, but if it's small for most players, one would expect it to be noticeable on a 'guard' with 20 IS.

Buzzer-manager has the estimate for that skillset at $ 60 298, so I'd think nothing's changed for this player.



Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/7/2016 6:12:00 PM

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Date: 12/7/2016 6:38:43 PM
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Buzzer-manager is just a tool that not always is right (although it's accurate most of the times)
I've assure you that the salary of Chaperon would have been below 50k. And anyway as I've said, you have examples in the transfer list including players which have not dropped or trained, so they are easier to compare.

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The intend of the change was (if i got that right) to reduce the competitive advantage of LI teams in terms of salary (LI guards had low salary compared to outside guards).
What i see now is that LI guards might have indeed become slightly more expensive, however, LI big men (high IS, low guard skills) have dropped in salary while teams with balanced players have seen a rise across the board.

Summary: The salary advantage for specialist LI teams was increased instead of decreased compared to more flexible, high TSP teams.

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Date: 12/8/2016 5:02:22 AM
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Well, my conclussions are not really the same as yours.
What I see is that guards who were inside trained have a higher salary now, and that PFs an Cs with skills trained to defend outside tactics have a higher salary now.
I don't think this is helping LI dominance.

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