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From: Kukoc
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100172.71 in reply to 100172.70
Date: 8/7/2009 9:27:51 AM
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Not that it needs to be mentioned. With instant transfers etc. You could check youre opponents team 1h before the match and end up playing another roster all together:D I will "loan" some great players for that one match, sell them back to them after the match and noone will notice. Hell I don't even have to pay salaries.
I urge everyone to think a week about theyr suggestions before posting one. You need to put the ups and downs on the paper. If the suggestion still seems decent after a week of pondering about it, then be my guest and post it.

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100172.72 in reply to 100172.68
Date: 8/7/2009 10:38:52 AM
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These will not happen - it makes cheating too easy.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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100172.73 in reply to 100172.68
Date: 8/7/2009 11:18:29 AM
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Nobody can accept that - it would make buying players too confusing.

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100172.75 in reply to 100172.71
Date: 8/7/2009 9:39:07 PM
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Did you ponder this ridiculous suggestion for a week before posting it?

Once I scored a basket that still makes me laugh.
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100172.76 in reply to 100172.75
Date: 8/7/2009 10:20:33 PM
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You seem to have superhuman strength, when reading english is considered! ;)

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100172.77 in reply to 100172.76
Date: 8/8/2009 5:37:28 AM
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LOL,
Just throwing intelligent ideas outthere, not trying to talk to trolls.

Large economy games use variable auction systems which give the sellers an option of placing or not placing a buyout. They also give sellers the option of altering the length of the auction.

Its weird though in this game you can bid on your own auction, something not allowed usually.

It would not make the system chaotic. Adding a buyout figure to some auctions is not confusing. OK I must admit some of you are probably complete morons and can't understand the idea of a buyout. Unfortunate for you.

None of that would make cheating any easier. If they buyout is above or below the players natural value the system would pick it up, besides which with the current limit on the number of transfers you can do in a given time frame before fees get ludicrus... Cheating via transfers seems pretty impossible now.

People would need to #1 trick the system into giving them a bunch of multiple accounts (I'm sure people if diligent enough can get this done) Then they would need to just farm players out of those teams to whichever their flagship team is, but all at relatively decent value and spread out over a large range of time. Even if someone went through the trouble of cheating at that level the amount of benefit they get form it seems so minimal it aint even worth worrying about.

Seriously though if you are worried about cheaters go find some and report them to the admins, if admins don't move start a thread for report people you think are cheating via multiple accounts. Just post both teams and show the large number of transfers between them that are shady.

honestly I haven't seen any sings of cheating, I haven't lookd for it though. My limited information opinion is that there are little to no actively cheating multi-accounters in this game.

The system is not fine the way it is. There are times when auctions are lucritive and not based on volume of users at a given hour.

People who work etc. during peak or offpeak hours, as well as people who don't want to spend all day watching the transfer list are at a HUGE disadvantage to folks who could check the transfers every few hours.

Bids only updating 3 minutes with a bid doesn't really help create a bid war that includes all buzzerbeater players. It only includes people in that time zone in that hour. For any auction to include every player in the game the amount of time you need to give someone to look at it is atleast 1 week. Seriously.

Of course if EVERY auction took several weeks to complete it would make roster upgrading very time consuming, which wont work with the relatively short season lengths. If it took 2-3weeks to move ANY player than you'd need like a month to set up which eats up to much of the season.

That is why there should be an option for buyouts and quicker 3-day options for less valuable players.

And stuff.

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100172.78 in reply to 100172.77
Date: 8/8/2009 6:04:42 AM
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It would not make the system chaotic. Adding a buyout figure to some auctions is not confusing. OK I must admit some of you are probably complete morons and can't understand the idea of a buyout. Unfortunate for you.

None of that would make cheating any easier


did you know how cheating protection works here, before you call us morons?

If a would be a cheater, i will list a player with a buy out and buy him with that and other players won't see how much i bid on it. So the transfer won't be reported, maybe you see now a little problems before you attack me ...

I won't read the rest after it, sorry.

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100172.79 in reply to 100172.77
Date: 8/8/2009 9:36:07 PM
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It's not going to happen because of the possible cheating issues, period.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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100172.80 in reply to 100172.78
Date: 8/9/2009 8:14:53 AM
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Err... with a buyout option all buyouts would be reported, just like all sales are reported, to help with the pricing system, which is also directly linked to the anti-cheating system.
All buys are 'reported' If you pay more than estimated value, ALWAYs reported....
Are you talking about players that are off the charts or very rare so there is no data on them??????
In that case you would need to make that player over a LONG LONG period of training.... So like if you multi-accounted 10 accounts then one day decided to merge them all into a single account via one sale from each team or something like that..... Doesn't sound easy AT ALL. Sounds like something that would take massive planning and execution to work.
As for as players not necessarily off the charts, but just kinda rare... Well if they are mediocre players, again same problem of needing create multiple accounts and then the problem of snagging a bunch of mediocre players, cheating or no, doesnt really do anything for you.
So if you feel like proving that you aren't really really short upstairs, feel free to try. So far I'm convinced you are not very sharp.

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100172.81 in reply to 100172.80
Date: 8/9/2009 9:24:46 AM
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All buys are 'reported' If you pay more than estimated value, ALWAYs reported....


you know that why?(it could be but i won't be sure about that) And did you take a look at the Transfer estimation, my best one goes from 50k to 4,5 miollions - so to buy him to 50k and sell him fpr 4,5 Miollions was ok in this case and no cheating?

Are you talking about players that are off the charts or very rare so there is no data on them??????


this is just antother probem with the tpe, which is primary designed to help a bit the newcomers or people who aren't very active on the Tl.

o like if you multi-accounted 10 accounts then one day decided to merge them all into a single account via one sale from each team or something like that..... Doesn't sound easy AT ALL


So cheating is no problem for you?

So if you feel like proving that you aren't really really short upstairs, feel free to try. So far I'm convinced you are not very sharp.


with the current system, there was alot eyes on the market so i won't try it, even if 5 miolions for each of the ten team who be attractive for me - but i play fair ;)

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