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From: Aro King

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Date: 4/24/2010 12:07:40 AM
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haha. My advice...just accept defeat graciously otherwise just break a couple of his players' legs. ;)

From: inv

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136673.72 in reply to 136673.71
Date: 4/26/2010 10:04:36 AM
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i think i'll just TIE it and focus on my league game... haih.. no more extra moola...

From: -CS
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136673.74 in reply to 136673.1
Date: 5/6/2010 5:18:18 AM
GinaKia
MBBA
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think to sell my best PG. any suggestion?
sell or no sell?
sell this season or next season?
his salary is too expensive for me. why our MBBA team financial hard to keep balance? if our team can not support heavy wages player, it is hard to train a very good NT player.

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136673.75 in reply to 136673.74
Date: 5/6/2010 7:01:45 AM
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because you guys keep buying expensive foreign players.

how much you gonna sell for?

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136673.76 in reply to 136673.75
Date: 5/6/2010 10:12:53 AM
GinaKia
MBBA
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my player ok ok only leh... if compare to others country manager, for team Div1, they can pay a lot for their player, but we can not, because our income not much as their income, thats why malaysian hard to train a better player for NT and our NT player level is still the same, can not grow at all.

i will sell at around 6m

From: KwaiWah

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Date: 5/7/2010 9:49:57 AM
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my player ok ok only leh... if compare to others country manager, for team Div1, they can pay a lot for their player, but we can not, because our income not much as their income, thats why malaysian hard to train a better player for NT and our NT player level is still the same, can not grow at all.

i will sell at around 6m


Why do you say our income not as much as other country income? Are you saying their tv contract or merchandise or arena revenue more than us?

From: -CS

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136673.78 in reply to 136673.77
Date: 5/7/2010 11:55:23 AM
GinaKia
MBBA
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i am not sure, but i can see lot of player salary reach $500k++
how they "feed" their player if all the income same like us?

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136673.79 in reply to 136673.78
Date: 5/7/2010 11:27:54 PM
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Maybe their arena is very big?
Plus got good PR manager to increase merchandise?

Or maybe there is some conspiracy. They give higher revenue to certain "big" countries in BuzzerBeater. Hahahahahahahahhaahaha

From: KwaiWah

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136673.80 in reply to 136673.78
Date: 5/8/2010 4:23:19 AM
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i am not sure, but i can see lot of player salary reach $500k++
how they "feed" their player if all the income same like us?


Well, I have no access to their TV contract or merchandise but I can check their arena revenue.
So I decided to analyse the best teams in BB, namely the past 3 winners of B3 and compare it with our MBBA champion, Spaz

B3 Season 11 winner: ESV Laim from Germany (World Ranking #1)
B3 Season 10 winner: Sharman Globetrotters from Japan (World Ranking #3)
B3 Season 6-9 winner: BC Törööö from Canada (World Ranking (World Ranking #7)
MBBA Season 6-11 winner: Ampang Stuporsonics from Malaysia (World Ranking #47)

Team Name.................Arena Income (Size).......Top 8 player salary......Delta
ESV Laim....................$604,180 (28000)............$889,291.............-$285,111
Sharman Globetrotters...$619,642 (20211)............$934,070.............-$314,428
BC Törööö..................$524,139 (21860)............$896,659.............-$372,520
Ampang Stuporsonics.....$601,846 (26,535)...........$378,926..............$222,920

There can be a few facts that can be drawn from the table above:
1. MBBA arena income with other top teams are comparable
2. Comparing only the salary and the arena income, the B3 winners are making a loss.
3. The average salary of the top 8 players for the B3 winners are >$110k/player while Ampang is only averaging at $47.4K
4. Ampang Stuporsonics is damn rich!

I am not sure about TV contract but I will think that TV contract should not have a huge difference with MBBA. So let's say their TV contract is $150K and staff salary let's say they have 3 exceptional staff with a salary of $40K. This will roughly mean TV contract is offset by staff salary + scouting.

If the above assumption is true then in order not to make a loss, the team's merchandise income will need to be around $300K - $400K. Merchandise income is very much dependant on :
1. The performance of the team
2. Player's involvement in national team
3. Player being the league leaders in terms of points, rebounds or assists

Since these are the top teams in BB, they should satisfy all 3 criteria easily and will definitely be raking in lots of merchandise money. So $300-400k should be a reasonable amount.

In conclusion, other teams in other countries are making the same amount of income as MBBA.
The only main difference is the merchandise which the teams are getting as a result of having a winning team not because they are in a country with more managers.
So income is not dependant on the size of the country but more on the performance of the team

From: -CS

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136673.81 in reply to 136673.80
Date: 5/8/2010 9:33:24 AM
GinaKia
MBBA
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merchandise income for GinaKia <100k.......zzzzzzzzz

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