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187744.71 in reply to 187744.70
Date: 7/4/2011 12:34:28 AM
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I could call you dumb for only having 6 players in your roster with one listed, doesn't make me correct, unless I can prove it though, right?

Larry Bird is a hall of famer, when it comes to ball, every single person on this planet would believe his words over yours every day of the week.

Come back with something to support your arguement, then I might start listening to you again.

How does a fadeaway jump shot compare to a free throw? Give some examples...

I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I cant accept not trying. - MJ
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187744.72 in reply to 187744.70
Date: 7/4/2011 2:38:00 AM
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This Larry Bird fellow is incredibly dumb if he thinks there's no correlation between free throw shooting and jump shooting.


I'm assuming there is some facetiousness in that statement.

I believe Bird's point was that a set, uncontested shot - that is, one that requires no lateral movement or vertical elevation - is entirely different from a jump shot. Free throws require no athleticism or pure basketball form while the same can't be said for a jump shot.

Your assertion that free throws and jump shots are strongly linked doesn't hold water. Go examine the effective field goal % rankings for the NBA. If you look at the top 10 or 15 guards listed, you'll see that their free throw percentages range from 93% to 73%. If there was such a strong correlation between the two skills, it could be reasonably expected that each of these players would have free throw percentages in the 85%+ range.

All of this misses the point Bird was trying to make that the art of the free throw is a practiced skill which requires repetition and form distinctly different from a jump shot.

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187744.73 in reply to 187744.72
Date: 7/4/2011 3:42:10 AM
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If you can shoot threes and Jumpers you can shoot FTs! Why? Its not a matter of those shot types being similar or not, but rather if your skillset suits those type of shots. A guard with good ball handling and shooting skills will hit his fair amount of FTs, are big center with no handling and shooting skills will suck at FTs. The bottom line should be somewhere near 40%, every professional who shoots less will get in trouble with his employer sooner or lager.

Another issue is still unsolved and that bothers me most! If a player is known to hit jumpers and 3s at a high percentage, but sucks at FT - why isnt that player fouled on EVERY shot attempt then? Hack a Shaq comes to my mind, and if I could stop a shooter by fouling him a lot, I would line up three or four mugs just to shut that player down. 40% 3PT and 20% FT% makes a difference of a couple of points if fouled or not while shooting.

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187744.74 in reply to 187744.73
Date: 7/4/2011 9:00:33 AM
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i would say it correlates too, if you don't throw then oldschool betwen your legs you could even jump when you make an free throw as long as you land behind the line.

But this game isn't reality, and changing it now would take away fun of me because player training is easily done and very valuable when you have a ft 1 guy. So use the system instead of changing it and you had in 3 weeks a close to 40% ft shooter, like many other manager done in the past.(and real life player learn shooting ft also through ft training, and not while only making 3pt drills)

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187744.75 in reply to 187744.74
Date: 7/4/2011 9:03:21 AM
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It does not make sense to train a whole team in FT-shooting if you have only one or two players lacking this skill. As an established team you will sooner or later add a trainee that has horrible FT-skills, while the rest of your roster shoots well beyond 70%.

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187744.76 in reply to 187744.75
Date: 7/4/2011 9:13:01 AM
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but you had plenty of time to train him, and when he crack the rotation is it more valuable then a JS training in my eyes talking from the extrem low numbers.

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187744.78 in reply to 187744.77
Date: 7/4/2011 9:31:52 AM
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The bottom line should be somewhere near 40%, every professional who shoots less will get in trouble with his employer sooner or lager.


Unless his employer is too busy with the lager and forgets to get him in trouble. :) I expect his employer would essentially demand that he start spending time in practice working on free throws until he could shoot them well enough to play in games. For whatever reason, it seems that some employers prefer their players who can't shoot free throws to spend all of their time working on other things instead of spending a little bit of time getting better from the line.

There are a couple of weeks coming up soon where many teams don't have the opportunity to play three games. I might suggest this could be a good time to remedy this problem!


haha, nice you made fun of me because of a typo - very nice one. I wonder why you dont do that with some other users that provide plenty of opportunities to do so.

BB is not the army, why would the whole team train FTs if only one of them lacks this skill?

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187744.79 in reply to 187744.78
Date: 7/4/2011 10:05:41 AM
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BB is not the army, why would the whole team train FTs if only one of them lacks this skill?


You would prefer only a few people to receive FT training, instead of the whole team? Where's the logic in that?



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187744.80 in reply to 187744.79
Date: 7/4/2011 10:53:33 AM
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dimishing marginal utility

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187744.81 in reply to 187744.78
Date: 7/4/2011 11:30:56 AM
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I wonder why you dont do that with some other users that provide plenty of opportunities to do so.

BB is not the army, why would the whole team train FTs if only one of them lacks this skill?


You get picked on because you're the quintessential online flamer. You complain about training methods and future game enhancements without even knowing what they contain.

Both Stamina and Free Throw training are characterized by diminishing marginal utility. What's your point? The system works fine and accomplishes what it's intended to.

Or do you just enjoy the attention, no matter how negative it is?

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