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In the real world, sure. But this is a simulation where the manner in which players improve is very much nothing like how a person in the real world improves.

Exactly ! And that's exactly why people want secondary FT training when training shooting skills. And that should be implemented since this simulations aims to be realistic. I think all agree on this.


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No professional would shoot 0%. Period.


100% true. I agree. Nothing disrespectful but even a retard would manage to hit at least one in 1700 attempts.

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Date: 6/15/2013 5:13:40 PM
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Exactly ! And that's exactly why people want secondary FT training when training shooting skills. And that should be implemented since this simulations aims to be realistic. I think all agree on this.

Agree on what? That users should never have to train their players in FT and yet the players would still get better at FT shooting? Have you read this thread? Clearly there are people who don't agree that secondary FT training for JS or JR training should be implemented.

As I see it, the reason why some people want secondary FT train is largely because they want to continue to simplify the game and take as much strategy and work out of it as possible. The designers have already done that once recently by putting in the silly 10% cross-training feature because so many complained about all the cookie cutter players who were trained in just 2 or 3 skills. It was the easy fix rather than improving the GE so that such non-realistic players behave more in the way they would in reality - which is to say not be that great of a player. Improving the game engine to more greatly reward users who more fully train their players would have been a much better solution in my opinion. But we all know the issues with getting GE improvements.

The entire training system in BB is not designed or intended to be realistic. That much is obvious. Players only get better based on the position they play in games and the amount of minutes they get each week? Nothing realistic about it at all. But it is a design choice that forces an element of strategy into the overall game. In order for a player to improve at something, you may need to play him out of position, which will hurt your team's performance in the game. That creates a decision point the users must consider. Here people want to lessen that by making it so they can avoid doing what is currently one of the easiest types of training to do, since the entire team benefits and it doesn't require anyone to play out of position. All because they simply can't give up that one or two weeks of training a season as they are try to develop their next cookie cutter monstrosity.

Would any real world player shoot 0% from the free throw line? No. Would any real world professional basketball player not have practiced shooting free throws for hundreds, if not thousands, of hours? No. Is having an player with atrocious FT skill shoot 0% unrealistic? Definitely. Is it an easy thing for a user to fix in the current game design? Absolutely. So no need to change the game design, in my opinion.

And yes, I have played, coached and taught basketball. But feel free to continue your ad hominem attacks. They are kinda funny.

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Date: 6/15/2013 6:06:52 PM
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*CUT

Omg, this is too long for reading. ;) I didn't read it. ;)

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I read it.

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Date: 6/15/2013 9:54:21 PM
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The difference is that JS/JR/1on1 is done by 1-2 positon training. If you include FT, Gameshape or Stamina in 1-2 position training there is no need for teamtraining anymore. As a result the game loses strategic depth and makes it boring imho.




Thanks for explaining the difference too me. All these years I had no clue that's how training currently worked.

If you're just joining us, we're talking about possible ways to make changes to FT training. Nobody is talking about stamina or game shape. And if making one minor change to FT training makes the entire game boring for you, God help you.

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Date: 6/16/2013 7:05:49 AM
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The difference is that JS/JR/1on1 is done by 1-2 positon training. If you include FT, Gameshape or Stamina in 1-2 position training there is no need for teamtraining anymore. As a result the game loses strategic depth and makes it boring imho.




Thanks for explaining the difference too me. All these years I had no clue that's how training currently worked.

If you're just joining us, we're talking about possible ways to make changes to FT training. Nobody is talking about stamina or game shape. And if making one minor change to FT training makes the entire game boring for you, God help you.


Haha, irony at its best! Made my day sir :)

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Date: 6/16/2013 10:00:05 AM
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Thanks for explaining the difference too me. All these years I had no clue that's how training currently worked.

If you're just joining us, we're talking about possible ways to make changes to FT training. Nobody is talking about stamina or game shape. And if making one minor change to FT training makes the entire game boring for you, God help you.


Next time you want to compare your tiny little wiener with my big cock make sure it is true what you are talking about. As I joined a season earlier I "clearly" win the contest of having the bigger dick. Uhhh...Ohh look at me, I play an unknown browser game longer than you, I am Superman!!!
Keeping in mind I offered my humble opinion and you acting like an asshole, I have to overthink my theory about Canadians beeing nice. You are the first one, so congratulations..you are good at something. ;)

If you do not mind, I will go now and celebrate with my big German bratwurst!

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and... scene!

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And its still up hours later. Classic

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And its still up hours later. Classic


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