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264414.71 in reply to 264414.70
Date: 10/24/2014 4:25:13 PM
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Could tell me somebody the relationship between the buying datum and the overall transfer in the last 14 weeks. I just checked and one of my trainees have 51% tax rate. But before somebody ask - no i dont want to sell him, it is just a simple question.

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264414.73 in reply to 264414.72
Date: 10/24/2014 10:10:53 PM
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I like the changes, from the numbers I've seen so far, they seem fair. Although, I'm a fan of giving advanced notice, and still a strong proponent of implementing the auto-bid system. I wouldn't normally come on just to say that, but it seems like there's a bit of backlash to this change, while I think it is a really good step in the right direction.

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264414.74 in reply to 264414.70
Date: 10/24/2014 11:06:50 PM
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What I propose the BBs should do is implement a price cap. Any players above a certain age (say 25) and below a certain salary (ie 20k) cannot be listed above a certain amount. As well, the price cap could apply to any 18 or 19 year olds whose potential and TSP fall below a certain value.

Another thing the BB's could do is make the starting price on all player $1000. To prevent hurting managers in different timezones, they could have an option to autolist the player at certain time, so all manager can put bids out during peak times. Also, this would ensure people are paying fair prices for their players. It might mean players won't make as much money off transfers, but this works both ways as it also means players would be cheaper to acquire.


I'm more in favor of a hybrid of those, where players who you've just purchased can only be listed at 1k for the first few weeks, and then it'll ramp up to the price you bought them later, and eventually it'll become fully unlocked. I don't have a time period because every time I start to type this out I think a different slope of the ramp up would be best. I just think that the problem is the actual *listing* price - if someone buys someone for 1k who is legitimately worth a lot more, they should be able to list them at 1k and get the fair price back. But putting out ridiculous starting bids until somebody bites is not an exercise of skill in evaluating the market, just in buying a cheap player and having patience to profit from the folly of poor decision making of other managers.

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264414.75 in reply to 264414.74
Date: 10/25/2014 12:16:43 AM
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I'd go for that, or even for listing at say 50% of the acquisition price. If you buy at 500k, you can choose to list at any price up to 250k.

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264414.76 in reply to 264414.72
Date: 10/25/2014 3:24:28 AM
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It´s about this player Adam Kögl (34454410)

I bought him a week ago. And I was selling 9 player in the last 14 weeks (which is more than I remember).
From yesterday to today the share of the price which I will get if i would sell him is going up from 49% to 55%. Is there a straight increase behind or something convergent nearing 97% ? (wow what sentences construct .. even I have a problem to understand it, but I will try - let me know if it was too complicated )

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264414.78 in reply to 264414.77
Date: 10/25/2014 7:20:19 AM
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I love the new rule. It's probably one to 20 ratio of exploiting. One daytrader abuses 20 newbies. I think with the changes, new players won't get their economy destroyed as much. Maybe a bit more people stick around to try to learn the game.

That -2% is priceless! I checked Goldena's roster few days ago, and when I saw his post, I LOL'd. I virtually laughed out loud haha

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264414.80 in reply to 264414.12
Date: 10/25/2014 7:38:25 AM
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Much appreciate if yourself and inparticular Wolf (Trainerman) would like to enter the debate in the thread (264484.1) that I started.


I would really like to hear from you both as to what you each believe the number one priority should be and also why

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264414.81 in reply to 264414.79
Date: 10/25/2014 8:40:16 AM
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This way only daytraders are hurt


Well, that was the idea, I guess...


I don't think only daytraders are hurt. There are a number of people who like to check the transfer list to see if there are better players than the current roster and then want to get a fair price on the player being replaced. I don't understand why the game play should be restricted by forcing people to have "stable" rosters. There are enough penalties already on buying players for the short term. If you just tax the profits instead of the whole amount or, alternatively, force people to list at lower prices, you remove the incentive for daytraders without hurting legitimate purchases.

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