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I really understand the anxiety that is handled by the changes that could occur but I think we should let them work and then with a clearer outlook we will see.

I have no doubt that it will be for the best, and if something really upsets the community later, we are here and we will let them know.

Let's be patient.

Can you please explain how the design is "terrible for new players." Everything is clearly labeled, there are almost no extraneous graphics or distractions, and it is quite basic.

I am not trying to be a smart alec. I genuinely am interested to know why the design needs retooling.

Basically, a company wants to earn money and when it takes over something that already exists, it sees a monetization potential that it wants to tap into.

The question now is how far the company will go to achieve this.

You can promise all sorts of things now to keep people engaged, and still just do it differently later to make more money. If they see an opportunity to generate 100k+ users here and make more money than with the remaining 15k hardcore users, then there is a certain probability that this path will be followed, with all the consequences. The bigger the company, the higher the probability of this path.

There is, of course, another path: Preserving the charm and soul of the game, growing and modernizing at a leisurely pace, and still making a profit. Of course, there is nothing wrong with making a profit per se, we are (thank God) not in socialism here and BB is not open source (even open source, i.e. a community project, would not manage without funding). The question is simply how hard monetization will be pushed.

For my part, I'll wait and see. If certain things become apparent here, e.g. massive schedule speeding up (significantly shortened seasons, multiple training sessions a week), microtransactions, some infantile stuff for young target groups…, then BB would no longer be for me and I would be out, one hobby less. The new owner can promise a lot now ("no pay to win", "community involvement"), time will tell what will come of it.

(Around here since 2009, long time supporter, even donated)

Discord is more functional than the forums currently and easier to have actual conversations and get quick responses. That discord is also brand new which is likely why BB-Marco was on there. He has since responded to questions in here too.

Respectfully, feedback from the new owners/developers needs to be posted on ALL channels including the forums here. Otherwise it looks like they have something to hide.

Right now we've seen exactly one post from BB-Marco here on the forums. I'm guessing he has been quite a bit more active on Discord. That's not an acceptable ratio of communication between Discord and the forums.

Further, pessimism is certainly warranted when there is a history of games like this being radically changed to "modernize" them. Until the new owners prove otherwise current managers have a duty to be vocal and hold their feet to the proverbial fire.

Last edited by lvess at 6/19/2024 5:07:44 PM

I have played since season 3 and, like many, have mixed feelings.

More often than not, when a company buys an existing product, especially in the realm we are in, monetization is their number one goal. In BB this could mean that Supporter gets more expensive, which i would even be ok up until a certain point, but it could also mean that people could get benefit by paying more real life money, i.e. better Coaches ect. These things happened before and to a degree, it will be reasonableto think that this is the case here too. I know Marco said it wont happen like that, but we will see what future brings

The visuals of this game are what i like most. Its not this usual colorful and graphic heavy site. It gives you a feeling of nostalgia, but im not at all against

However, a certain visual upgrade certainly is appreciated.

I am more than willing to let these guys suprise me as i, and im not alone im sure, have been losing interest, though the last seasons got me back in because i love developing Nationals in lower leagues, send them off and rebuild again.

Only time will tell.