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69634.71 in reply to 69634.70
Date: 1/23/2009 2:49:15 PM
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oh you forgot the gm bonus *crouch*

But i don't expect you to top the 4,5k STH without winning the BBB, i forgot the amount from the Bulls but it stays at nearly the same amount for 2-3 Seasons(i expect it was betwenn 4000 and 4300) - and they play pretty succesfull.

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69634.72 in reply to 69634.50
Date: 1/23/2009 2:49:16 PM
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just to clarify i meant that any modifier to adjust for the size/competitiveness by country would be small.



I´m curious as to how you would judge what nations to adjust with this modifier.

If size would be one way of doing it, you could say 500 active teams in one nation would be the limit to not being hit with the modifier.

But that would also mean that only 20% of teams would be hit. It would also mean that nations like Canada, uruguay, Slovensko, Nederland, Česká Rep, Bulgaria and England would be hit with the modifier.

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69634.73 in reply to 69634.70
Date: 1/23/2009 2:52:28 PM
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Then I've broken through the cap and the world is coming to an end.


It is, but don´t tell anyone.

On a more serious note (yes, more serious than the end of the world), it sure doesn´t move up much after you hit 4000.
I´m at 4075 at the moment, and i suspect it will drop after this season.


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69634.74 in reply to 69634.70
Date: 1/23/2009 2:54:49 PM
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you're still living on the STH bug from the first 4 seasons, it'll come down.

I won the double in season 5 and ended up just over 4k. it's not a hard cap at 4k, but thats about roughly the most you'll see*

*of anyone that didnt win their league in season 1-3

"Well, no ones gonna top that." - http://tinyurl.com/noigttt
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69634.75 in reply to 69634.60
Date: 1/23/2009 4:14:07 PM
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I would say the complete the opposite of you, i would say the arena are way toooooo small.

only a question.If a team could sold out a palce of 38,000 seats,what will be the limit?50,000?75,000?100,000?Have you ever seen a basketball match in a football stadium?
with very very low price hambourg bulls earn 120k for game more than the leader of the ovest conference of the bundesliga,stallions...

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69634.76 in reply to 69634.75
Date: 1/23/2009 4:26:34 PM
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but the stallions could build an temple like this, too. Or is it forbidden for them?

And you say, that the target is to build an percet team in this game, the bulls even pay around 100k more salary then the Stalliosn maybe a bit more ;) So they a closer to the target you like to see.

Have you ever seen a basketball match in a football stadium?


i never saw a basketball match like those one in BB, and you won't get such cheap ticket fpor NBA matches like here in BB even most football team like to see more then 10$ for the cheapest places.

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69634.77 in reply to 69634.76
Date: 1/23/2009 4:31:22 PM
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but the stallions could build an temple like this, too. Or is it forbidden for them?

And you say, that the target is to build an percet team in this game, the bulls even pay around 100k more salary then the Stalliosn maybe a bit more ;) So they a closer to the target you like to see.

Have you ever seen a basketball match in a football stadium?


i never saw a basketball match like those one in BB, and you won't get such cheap ticket fpor NBA matches like here in BB even most football team like to see more then 10$ for the cheapest places.

hambourgs earns more than 120-150 k over stallions...in 14 match of championship(without playoff incomes) 150*14=1700k
with this 1700k hambourg bulls could pay salaries of players strongers than stallion players
so stallions will always loses from hambourg bulls and will have less subscribers and will never fill the number of seats of hambourg bulls,even if he will hava the same palace with the same ticket prices and so on hambourg bulls will always have economic adnatage and will always win forever and ever...
mah,i don't understand what is yout interest in this
just my two cents

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69634.78 in reply to 69634.77
Date: 1/23/2009 4:53:40 PM
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But both teams has played since season 1, Stallions could also have the same size Arena if they had chosen to do so.

And the Bulls can´t build forever.

The difference in subscribers i suspect is no more than about 200.


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69634.79 in reply to 69634.77
Date: 1/23/2009 5:01:18 PM
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hambourgs earns more than 120-150 k over stallions...in 14 match of championship(without playoff incomes) 150*14=1700k
with this 1700k hambourg bulls could pay salaries of players strongers than stallion players
so stallions will always loses from hambourg bulls and will have less subscribers and will never fill the number of seats of hambourg bulls,even if he will hava the same palace with the same ticket prices and so on hambourg bulls will always have economic adnatage and will always win forever and ever...


the bette rplayer cost more salary, thats why the bulls earn 120k more but also pay around 120k more ... So the profit is the same, and the different relativ becomes smaller^^

But if you like to increase your profit +X% from homegames, in building a bigger arena you have to enlarge your arena +Y% those values are pretty the same outgoing from the same ticket prices. So your only problem is, that winning teams get more spectators not the size of the arenas. If you cut the size of the arena, the problems stays but with smaller arenas and higher ticket prices ... Maybe the problems becomes more worst, because to increase your arena + Y% you ahve to pay less(like the whole arena).

And why you don't watch ESV lain or Tall blacks, they have bigger arenas(more expensive) then the Bulls, they earn more then the stallions without being more succesfull.

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69634.80 in reply to 69634.49
Date: 1/23/2009 5:06:16 PM
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Take a step back and just try and think for a moment about what your saying within your speech and why the above 2 extracts really are complete nonsense.

this doesn't seem the best way to share opinions.

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69634.81 in reply to 69634.40
Date: 1/23/2009 5:38:27 PM
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I think you are 100% wrong about the big=poor small=rich.
I would be willing to bet that the #1 italian team has more assets than I do, the current #1 Thai team. I might have more cash on hand, but his roster has ten times the value of my cash on hand and roster put together.

At the moment the incomes only depend on the division you are in. In germany first division the merchandising and the spectators behave in exactly the same way as in Andorra first division. But the costs (players salaries) to stay in the two divisions are very different.
A new born team in Andorra (division II) will have more opportunity to expand its arenas and to invest on the market than a new team in Germany has (division V). I find this unfair. New teams should have the same economic situation independently of the country they are in.

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