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138tsp in a big man in Urbanek territory. Also, 15 JR, 15PA 13 OD on a big man feels kind of a longshot even with very high starting skills.

I guess you are thinking to do as much as you can to toast the IS score of the bigs in favor of upping their JS some, and in addition to that adding JR. The problem is they wont shoot that much from outside and you can not eliminate inside shots from the game. In testing you can try to figure it out. They will still take some inside shots. Putbacks etc....

Production wise its good to have some ability to convert those shots...how much they can get out of a high JS and JR without high DR/HA/PA is debatable...and are you gonna put OD on them or not? If/when you get those stats high enough the player switches off to SF or guard builds.

The high DR/HA/PA is also especially important for the low IS build specifically because of the putbacks. One of my trainees right now is "up" to 6 IS through secondary training only and is playing a lot of C and PF this season to try to improve ID and RB. He's a decent enough shooter for outside (10/8 JS and JR) but he's also got 13 DR and 10PA at the moment. He's taken very few actual inside shots - the stats aren't up to date but he had at one point 7 total inside shots attempted, 29 drives, 31 jump shots and 19 threes. Since he has 22 offensive boards in that stat set, if there wasn't the higher ball skills he would have just dumped up a lot of sure-fire misses from inside - instead, he kicks it back out for the traditional 24-second burning of the shot clock that is one of the hallmarks of the Princeton. ;)

First of all TSP is with or without FT and ST? I assumed it was without them.

I have worked a lot with spain NT and U21, seen my share of draftees and i know they can go as high as that. But players over 140 tsp are generally SF.

Specialized players such as big men or perimeter players usually have less TSP because training deep in primaries does some serious negative elastic effect. Even if you consider giving tons of 1on1 130TSP (140 if you count ST and FT) is a lot more realistic for your defensive minded, shot blocking driven, outside capable bigs.

Most Expensive U21 Players Season 24
Season 17: (78289.450)
Season 18: (78289.488)(78289.489)
Season 19: (78289.538)
Season 20: (78289.587)
Season 21: (78289.637)
Season 22: (78289.643)
Season 23: (78289.693)

U21 Top 10
1. Ottorino Montemurro(26327171) $128,824 - Italia
2. Armenak Haroutyunyan(26820874) $103,301 - Hayastan
3. Luigi Vallieri(26319597) $101,412 - Italia
4. Viktor Akhatov(26476811) $100,226 - Rossiya
5. Mairis Zakss(26645731) $98,634 - Latvija
6. Choi Hang Fu(26630113) $97,931 - Hong Kong
7. Zhang Pinglong(26127409) $97,482 - China
8. Jan Mansson(26310878) $91,705 - Sverige
9. Ho Tai Wen(26629615) $86,579 - Hong Kong
10. Teovalds Alpe(26646087) $85,587 - Latvija

BB U21 Starting Five
PG. Chung Ka Ming(26630573) $58,169 - Hong Kong
SG. Phil Hall(26431073) $43,113 - England
SF. Jiang Teck Yau(26797895) $34,366 - Taiwan
PF. Krystian Woloszyk(26708691) $82,995 - Poland
C. Ottorino Montemurro(26327171) $128,824 - Italia

PF
1. Krystian Woloszyk(26708691) $82,995 - Poland
2. Sandi Vukan(26760885) $73,196 - Slovenija
3. Daniel Podolak(26777493) $50,558 - Slovensko
4. Ken Neudt(26414597) $43,816 - Belgium
5. Valentin Baude(26359528) $42,629 - France
6. Fivos Chirokrotidis(26398983) $40,517 - Hellas
7. Roman Byczkowski(26700719) $40,510 - Poland
8. Jeremie Dugue(26110189) $38,757 - Canada
9. Marin Deaconescu(26740634) $37,519 - Romania
10. Thord Sandbom(26311732) $37,379 - Sverige

SF
1. Jiang Teck Yau(26797895) $34,366 - Taiwan
2. Ulan Cantara(26681016) $30,838 - Philippines
3. Matej Nepras(26596447) $24,479 - Ceska Rep.
4. Jan Sandayer(26601664) $23,893 - Danmark
5. Juhan Lovi(26605888) $20,315 - Eesti
6. Alain Flaig(26544315) $19,825 - Schweiz
7. Petre Vasile(26739601) $19,717 - Romania
8. Talonario Fazliu(26665824) $19,483 - Makedonija
9. Chu Jing Chu(26759147) $19,461 - Singapore
10. Robert Grzywacz(26699549) $19,330 - Poland

SG
1. Phil Hall(26431073) $43,113 - England
2. Fabian Avalos(26576606) $37,943 - Mexico
3. Lukas Kresta(26596301) $37,407 - Ceska Rep.
4. Giuseppe Andreani(26497001) $36,116 - Chile
5. Amadee Kircher(26544229) $35,725 - Schweiz
6. Pedro Margalef(26803316) $34,336 - Uruguay
7. Ling Yew Aun(26629844) $34,295 - Hong Kong
8. Brent Wang(26456111) $33,079 - Australia
9. Eigil Friis(26601218) $32,373 - Danmark
10. Grgo Zuljevic(26589142) $29,259 - Bosna i Hercegovina

PG
1. Chung Ka Ming(26630573) $58,169 - Hong Kong
2. Andrea Adamoli(26518600) $56,994 - Hrvatska
3. Peteris Vilkens(26645465) $52,623 - Latvija
4. Timofey Beskov(26478679) $47,039 - Rossiya
5. Roberto Pardo Gato(26230356) $45,753 - Espana
6. David Barbacana(26239669) $45,482 - Espana
7. Leandro Ceballos(26807276) $41,662 - Venezuela
8. Tan Wei Shi(26759185) $41,285 - Singapore
9. Gerasim Stulov(26477801) $41,138 - Rossiya
10. Fan Ping Wai(26759089) $40,874 - Singapore

As usual, let me know if there are any mistakes, im pretty sure that #10 on the SG list is incorrect, I think someone has a higher salary that is still under 30k. Anyways, enjoy, discuss!

Last edited by Bballin at 7/3/2013 5:28:08 PM

Some wrong links:
Top 10 - Chung Ka Ming(26630513) $58,169 - Hong Kong
Top 10 - 8. Jan Mansson(26310828) $91,705 - Sverige
SG - 2. Fabian Avalos(2657660) $37,943 - Mexico
SG - 6. Pedro Margalef(26903316) $34,336 - Uruguay
PG - 1. Chung Ka Ming(26630513) $58,169 - Hong Kong