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Well in NBBA I didn't have anyone trainable -- it was either out of position with guards at C or in position to top off some boring PGs with no side skills. I tried playing patient while training (to abuse the C-shoots-jumpshots setup that works for some people) but it didn't work, so I blew it up. Game is kind of boring without training

I haven't trained anyone in a couple seasons... I've been hitting GS/Stamina/FT's to give my team an extra edge while still staying extremely cost efficient. When you don't have to pay for a trainer or trainees or give up playing time to under experienced youth players your team performs a heck of a lot better.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 3/20/2013 12:21:42 AM

that's right for sure, plenty of teams in NBBA have a bunch of 34yos with a career extension trainer
in the current economic environment it's a very viable way to play
but I like "player legends", like Havens having been on my team for 13 seasons and being such a stud ;)

i think the whole challenge of moving a team forward is daunting.

i made DII a few seasons back and realized i had no future -- no trainees, small stadium, older players, no Americans, revenue capped -- so i blew it all up and rebuilt.

now i have a DII team that can compete but after last night i realize i don't have a clue how to get to the Visionaries' level of play --
a) can train one player at a time, but that takes, what, four, seasons? to produce a good DII / NBBA player. from my players' ages, most are in their mid-20s, that means maybe 2 players. i'm not sure i am just 2 players away from the Holy Land.
b) sure can't buy those quality players. i am a poor businessman, always selling low and buying high, and players of the necessary quality go for upwards of 2 million.
c) i can build a cash pile and run a deficit -- let's see, 12 weeks, lose a 100 grand a week, means i would need 1.5 million. i think Jason did this last season, and from what i can tell, the Visionaries are doing it this season, but the option is still too high risk for my taste (and coaching ability).

so now i am resetting my sights, hoping for a pleasant stay in DII, watch others promote, and hope for a lightning bolt of some kind to figure this out.

Option a) works, but you need to do at least 2 and preferably 3 guys at once. It works because starter-quality trainees are the most salary efficient players in the game, if you're training bigs then they'll cost you say $80k/week in salary but play at a $150k level in playoffs.

As the game matures, the only ways to promote will be a really well-done option a), or a really patient option c). I used to be pretty good at b) myself but with less money floating around and more savvy users in general combined with the high level of play in top US divisions, you can't climb the mountain with daytrading anymore.

For my part I'm impressed by the NBBA mainstays (Coco, wozz, SM, calum, Steve) who've been there for a billion seasons in a row. It's almost impossible to build a mainstay in an economic sim like this where someone is always flaring to the top with option c), I haven't got that part figured out yet.

Peluin is right about option a), but in my opinion you must train three guys who can play at the DII level and not hurt you too badly. I have been following this routine for a while, and I have profited quite a bit on some guys, for example (22971297) and lost a little on some guys (19675555), and I have also created several keepers (21550571). I am sure option b) and c) work fine, but option a) has helped me stay young, competitive, and profitable.

no trainees, small stadium, older players,

I consider those to be positives. Your problem was not having *enough* players IMO.

we never have figured out what you are doing -- my guess is music: your boys' day job is performing in a small classical orchestra or maybe doing Duke Ellington arrangements for weddings.

that recent Miami game -- where they came from 27 down to win -- got me thinking. as much as i like BB, i must say i have never seen teams come storming back from huge deficits to win a game. the only exception is when the dopey AI coach subs at the beginning of the 4th period and waits too long to replace the scrubs.

so i wanted to ask: does anyone have any stories of great comebacks (or, from the opposite perspective, having lost huge leads)?

let's see how the Cup tourney is set up for this week:

NBBA


DII
Eugene at Midway Mules


DIII


DIV
Thunder Gods at Loco Dragons
Visionaries at green banner
Kentucky at Grand Ma Mas
Starmen Supers at Flash Mashers

DV and bots
Sunview Smokers at Bad Blue Boys
Valhalla at Dream team 2010
Tucumari at magics8995
Window Lickers at Halley Hatchets
The King and I at Sycamore Hills Techs
ATL at Temple Wizards
Rdkin at Hooperz
bigfalcon at Ron Swanson
The Walking Dead at Footpath Leapers
SomeTeam at Jr. Jazz

it looks like my favorite team will be exiting this week -- everybody else looks good for another week.

Jelme had a ridiculous comeback vs. I think Postal one time, like 20pts in the 4th quarter. Might have been playoffs too. I'll try to find it.

Edit: can't find it, kinda tough since he quit the game. maybe I can catch him online and see if he remembers
for my team's part, they only blow ~10 pt leads in the fourth

Last edited by Peluin at 3/22/2013 10:33:31 PM