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60836.72 in reply to 60836.71
Date: 3/15/2009 9:38:29 PM
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I'm curious as to why the NT has one of his own players on the NT that is an 18 year old that has no place being there....

That to me is taking advantage of your position.

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60836.73 in reply to 60836.72
Date: 3/15/2009 9:49:28 PM
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The player was added to the team because he was on a team that was going bot and was put on the team to be saved and trained. Rip88 picked him up on the transfer list because he is training inside players. and the player won't be dropped from the team because we would take a hit in our enthusiasm and right now, we need our enthusiasm to be as high as possible against Italy. This was done to make the Canadian NT better, not taking advantage of the position.

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60836.74 in reply to 60836.72
Date: 3/15/2009 10:40:29 PM
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Harfang explained the situation, but there isn't anything preventing a manager from adding his own players as well.

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A CT? Really?
Any two will do
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60836.75 in reply to 60836.74
Date: 3/15/2009 10:46:38 PM
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A poor explanation is better then no explanation..

I'm still not happy with it. If people are elected to the position of coach I expect them to do whats best for the team. Not for their out individual needs / wants.


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60836.76 in reply to 60836.75
Date: 3/15/2009 10:48:32 PM
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Either the coach added the player to the NT or he was lost forever, and then the NT coach purchased him.

What he did is very helpful to the NT, and isn't giving the NT manager any real benefit.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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60836.78 in reply to 60836.77
Date: 3/15/2009 11:02:46 PM
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Listen.. dont get all snotty about it..

I dont have to pay attention to it all the time. I dont pay attention to it cause non of my players are on it. But when I see a coach taking advantage of a situation I'm gonna call him on it..

Now you got your nose all bent out of shape. I really dont care if he was lost for ever it doesn't make any difference to how I play the game. I still think your taking advantage of being the coach.

As I said a poor excuse it better then no excuse I dont have to agree with your tactics everyone is allowed their own opinions apparently you dont like mine.


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60836.80 in reply to 60836.78
Date: 3/15/2009 11:34:38 PM
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As a small country with 367 users, we only get 3-4 players with MVP or better potential every year on a human team. This year two of these players went on team that were dying. If you'd bothered to read the thread, you would have seen a discussion about whether or not these players could be added to the national teams to save them.

It was decided to put one on each team to allow to not jam one roster with two players that weren't going to play this year, but were needed for the future (i.e. in 3-4 seasons) of our NT. It may be hard to see when you only take a snapshot of the team, but we're thinking in terms of mid and long terms with Essa Abu Kaleel and Chris Thomas, which is why I'm gonna try and pick up Ed Matthews to train him properly as a PG.

You do understand that Rip88 had to bid on the player to get him. He didn't just get him because he's the NT manager. He had to adjust his budget to get that player (a 1.4M$ fee btw).

Anyways, everything you're saying sounds to me like cheap politics trying to set up your run next season at the NT manager spot. That's my 2 cents and I'm done for now!

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60836.81 in reply to 60836.79
Date: 3/16/2009 7:52:36 AM
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I dont care if he was lost for ever cause he gives no benefit to the NT team. He has Potential. 2-3 seasons is a fairly long time. Lot of things can happen so what you did was for POTENTIAL not cause of something that will affect the team.

That is what I dont care for. And love how your trying to tell me where I should and should not post. Who made you boss ? This is NT related why should I bring it to mail ? So you can save face ? I have no problems putting my 2cents in and having an open debate about it. Apparently you'd rather hide.

And to answer for harfang I have no intentions of running for NT coach.

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60836.82 in reply to 60836.80
Date: 3/16/2009 7:56:54 AM
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I just want to reiterate what Harfang and RIP are saying. RIP is not using the team for his benefit here. In fact, his team is taking a hit to buy this player.

Also, before you post again, I suggest going and reading this thread: (77121.1). You had about two weeks to post your opinion there. Instead you decide to pick on him after the fact. Nice.

I just want to go over the sequence of events here.

1) Essa was drafted by a team about to go bot.
2) RIP opened up a forum topic about adding Essa
3) Everyone in the forum topic is supportive of adding Essa to the team.
4) RIP added the player to the NT team.
5) Essa's team went bot and he was transfer listed.
6) A bidding war ensued (I know this because I had eyes on him but did not have the money in the bank to buy him).
7) RIP ends up buying Essa for over 1.4 million.

If you really wanted this player, why did you not get in on the bidding? Essa was already on the NT when he became a free agent. Anyone could have picked him up, not just RIP.

As Juicepats said, nothing illegal is going on here. I'll go even further and say nothing immoral is happening here. In fact, my personal opinion is that this will only serve to make the U21 and NT better in the future.

Run of the Mill Canadian Manager
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