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From: Sparkle

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139141.74 in reply to 139141.73
Date: 7/25/2010 7:45:33 AM
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Actually, if you all want to point fingers around blaming someone for the overall result of our U21, I'm not sure we're able to point at anyone in this country at the moment.


There is no one pointing fingers as of yet, which is a very Malaysian disease I hope to see purged at least in BB. LA-Phenomenal is well within his rights to bring up his concerns with the U21s, and it's great to see his concerns being addressed by the U21 manager.

On the deterioration of the U21s, it has more to do with the improvement of other countries and lack of user base for us. We can go toe to toe with countries with a similar amount of active managers, beat them even, but when it comes to bigger countries the numbers do matter. Look at the Phillipines, they were below us when they started off and now they've gone on from strength to strength. And it is no fault of ours either, they've simply increased their user base while having the active managers play ball with shortlisted trainees. Now, we have around 100 active managers, they have 1,000.

This season alone, we feared a shortage of trainees for the U21s. But it turned out to be a shortage of trainers that threatened to derail our hopes. So, it has to be surmised that we should address the most pressing problem first before moving on to others. Somehow, we have to dig out more trainers to pick up our trainees. And I'm willing to even go foreign to search out trainers who will contribute to our NT. If there are not enough local trainers, I will search out foreign managers in lower leagues to train our trainees, with the promise that they WILL be selected for the U21 squad. At this stage, it is a win-win for us. We get a constant source of trainees and they get a NT flag on their trainees to help boost the price or feel proud of.

Criticism is useless without ideas for improvement, and I hope this is one of many ideas that can take off to turn our fortunes. I do not know who the next U21 manager will be, but I know as much that I for one will not be running for the post. Any contribution I can give, will be as a concerned Malaysian. Anyone else with a gameplan?

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139141.75 in reply to 139141.74
Date: 7/25/2010 10:17:20 PM
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hey guyz...
i was checking out hong kong U21 team(like terfu said) and i found out that they have 1000+ active users(some other countrys have more) while Malaysia only have around 100 active users... could it be that because of their large number of active managers that they have higher chance to get better players from drafts which make thier U21 and NT squad stronger???

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Date: 7/26/2010 12:43:28 AM
GinaKia
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ask your friends, your family, your relative, your teacher, your classmate, your schoolmate and etc to JOIN BBB!!

lolz

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Date: 7/26/2010 2:27:35 AM
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will get my dog to join D:

She might have problems typing and clicking with her paws tho =P

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Date: 7/27/2010 2:47:27 AM
MightyMice
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1. The quality of our U21s are deteriorating as seasons pass.
Answer: Yes indeed. We're in the process of trying to improve them. You'll see the effect after a season or two...


the key point here is about your scouting system. You need a very good one to do so - I don't know which strategy are you using, always curious to learn by others. If you don't plan and execute very well, you'll probably can have some comeback, but not strong enough in a so challenging region as Asia. Even in Africa you cannot switch it back by snapping your fingers.

Good luck for next matches!

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Date: 7/27/2010 2:59:54 AM
MightyMice
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Honestly, the number of users won't really affect much. We should, like Spaz says, increase the number of trainers. This way we can still have high quality players even though our headcount is still low.


Unfortunately it does

The number of active users impacts on draft. As many there are, as better chances you have to pick some good talents. With new incoming draft system, where even bots can have a good pick, I am VERY worried about my 12 managers... there are 4 talents I will loose!!! Note that in my last draft I had ONE 200cm+ potential star 18 years (not to mention his skills...). So, community is critical at this specific stage.

When training, you don't need a large community but a solid training and scouting system. You have to be very careful, patient, persuasive, helpful to get the results you want. Somebody simply has never used monorole training. Others don't know which prioirities can balance a great player with a sustainable salary and team. Sometimes, you have to convince managers to sell their players, although sad to both (you never know who will buy him, my SA Center 21 yrs allstar was sold to a guards trainer...).

In many cases, a good scout sustains you in taking a right decision, or giving you bits of experience. When I picked my Scalambrieri, I started to train him on the wrong way: without my great scout, Scalambrieri would have been a lost talent and not one of top 5 PG's in Italy (despite his potential!) (BTW, don't look at his salary, there is a trick!).

Last but not least, if your player gets a pop every week with a level 7 trainer, but plays 120 mins... well, you don't need him! And it happens too.

With South African guys, I spent half of last season to have my top 10 well trained (a couple were greatly trained, one was proceeding on a mythological path ... ), and since then we are still working to have ALL interesting players well trained. It is a patience game, long, boring, and full of results. I decided to arrange a staff as large as whole SA BB population!!! It is not to have a big team, is to be laser focused on each single player. You can dramatically increase your team evaluations, but to be competitive in a large region takes much time.

I know that HK has plenty of users. Good to them, but community - at least in BB forums - is not so active, so I don't know how many will train correctly their players. 100 users is anyway a good basis to start - of course, as larger as better!

As I am doing in SA with new appointed NT coach, we are working hard to increase the community. So, the effort you are spending on that is a must. Not easy to take results out of it (if the community has a size, there is some reason behind...).