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199504.73 in reply to 199504.72
Date: 11/23/2011 2:37:36 PM
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Wait, wait...I didn't say I'd exclusively play 3-2 over M2M against LI teams. M2M is still the best option if you want to control who defends who. But if your inside players are stronger than his, I think 3-2 is a smart choice.

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199504.74 in reply to 199504.70
Date: 11/23/2011 4:04:36 PM
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Or maybe you are totally wrong.
Don't blame you for not knowing how to use correctly 2-3 zone.


see the other side of that situation..how cool is that for LI teams that are user out there who tellin around that a fine defense option to stop ur/our offense isnt workin :-)

im pleased with that and sayin YES 23 is still BS..the only way to defend LI teams is using a 32 defense against it!!!!



I believe you are right! The ultimate defense against LI is 3-2, or M2M if you think your ID is high enough.

:D


don't forget about 1-3-1 much cooler then 3-2 against my LI ;)

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199504.75 in reply to 199504.73
Date: 11/23/2011 4:23:33 PM
Infested Warriors
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Wait, wait...I didn't say I'd exclusively play 3-2 over M2M against LI teams. M2M is still the best option if you want to control who defends who. But if your inside players are stronger than his, I think 3-2 is a smart choice.


I bet you defend M2M my LI... you have no chance.

Last edited by Mod-Infested at 11/23/2011 4:23:55 PM

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199504.77 in reply to 199504.75
Date: 11/24/2011 12:49:54 AM
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Wait a bit man, first let me build my team and compete with the best in D.I and hopefully B3 one day...and then you will see if I have any chance or not

In the meantime, the best example I can offer you is this:

(39910796)

I normally don't play Low post (I'm a fan of PtB), but I didn't want to give him many possessions by playing a fast tactic and my offensive flow is good enough. Obviously not if you are checking Match ratings only, but that's because I played a 19y old trainee on PG.

Last edited by Koperboy at 11/24/2011 12:50:15 AM

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199504.78 in reply to 199504.76
Date: 11/24/2011 12:51:01 AM
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Inside isolation? You mean Inside box-and-one?

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199504.79 in reply to 199504.78
Date: 11/24/2011 6:55:04 AM
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can u explain me one thing correctly? Whats wrong with 2-3?

to me it seems work well, same as 3-2...

in 3-2 u nad weaker ID and RB
in 2-3 u have weaker OD but better ID and RB

imo playing outside atack is good, becouse when your opponents try to stop u they need to play 3-2 and then they had weaker ID and RB. So u dont need very good C/F to have still RB and same lvl as your opponent.

for example

1) LI/3-2 vs 2) Motion/2-3

1 team need to have really good RB becouse they play 3-2, they 2) dont need to have good RB they recive bonus from 2-3.
and bonus to defense is same in 2-3 (to ID) and in 3-2 (to OD). So summary u have more bonuses from 2-3 than in 3-2.

if im wrong i will be glad if someone will explain it to me, whats really wrong with 2-3, why u are saing that its not working.


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199504.80 in reply to 199504.79
Date: 11/24/2011 5:12:27 PM
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I think inside box and one can stop a LI. I have two examples from this season, when I played a LP vs. a 2-3 or inside box and one.

2-3
(39470036)

Inside box and one
(39470060)

Against the 2-3 zone, my team had slightly less in inside scoring vs their inside defense. However, I scored 120 points. My team also shot about 58% from the court.
Against the inside box and one, my team had much better inside scoring vs their inside defense. I only scored 83 points that game. My opponent had a 4k C starting and a 27k PF. Somehow they were able to stop my 58k and 12k C and PF respectively.

Inside Bow and One was put into the game not too long ago. There is probably not much information about it, but I think it is defiantly a strong inside defense that was meant to be another option to stop LI offenses.

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199504.81 in reply to 199504.80
Date: 11/24/2011 5:19:02 PM
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I would also like to add that someone was talking earlier about inside players not being trained in inside defense enough. And guards not being trained well. If that is the case then maybe you should train your own players instead of complaining that there are not enough players the way you want them.

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199504.82 in reply to 199504.80
Date: 11/25/2011 4:49:23 AM
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i have had some difficulties while playing look inside, and my oponent uses box-out defence.
take a look at these least season final games:

at first one, my multiskilled beasty pf totally dominated. 50 EFFiciency in 35mins.
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/39313290/boxscore.aspx)

at second one, he was stopped with box-out, and he was mediocre at the best. 23 EFFiciency only in 36mins.
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/39313291/boxscore.aspx)

both games he had strong game shape. 2nd game his DMI was even higher than first one. Also in the second one i had home court advantage....which didnt helped me much. Seems like defence pretty much helped. he tooked 24 shots and made 17 versus 2-3 zone and he only tooked 10 shots and made 6 versus box-out.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 11/25/2011 4:55:57 AM

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199504.83 in reply to 199504.82
Date: 11/25/2011 5:28:32 AM
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To all four posters above me: difference between D.IV and D.I (or even D.II) is HUGE. In D.IV, 3-2 works against Motion and 2-3 works against LI. In D.I or D.II it doesn't most of the time. So while I understand you, you have to understand things are different on higher level of playing because players have more secondaries and teams are more balanced.

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