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278164.73 in reply to 278164.64
Date: 4/6/2016 7:20:36 AM
Manila Bombers
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I agree that outside shooting should be made more stronger. I think players with 19-20 jump shot and range should have 3P% close to Steph Curry (0.456). However, I also understand that BB's do not want to go back to the run and gun era so maybe they are just taking their time.

Thinking about it, I think BuzzerBeater lacks efficient screens. When I watch the Golden State Warriors play, a lot of times they will set a screen for Curry so that the opposing team will be forced to switch a player with lower outside defense on him. In BuzzerBeater, the only play close to a screen that I remember is "Player A slips off a screen for a shot with Original Defender right at his face" which does not help.

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278164.74 in reply to 278164.42
Date: 4/6/2016 11:13:57 AM
KK Mordor
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I have played outside tactics, balanced, but mostly inside as i prefer them.
As a matter of fact i used to play patient, especially in some crucial games.
Here is some of them:
(78565980) against winner of B3 that season.Chaperon, my ultimate player for this tactic got injury in 4th minute, so i played with 6 players, while 1 of them was in lvl6 game shape, due to injury absence.Should i mention that he had over double salaries in that time, should i mention that he had all world class players, one of them was in my team later, helped me to win B3 titile again...i lost in last seconds...
(71932533) against one of the best teams in BB in history, all my players had extremlly low stamina in that period.
(75225582) for me the best example how patient should work.I guess you would agree that inside team can not perform like this.In that match i played against very strong team, well balanced and with much higher salaries.At the other hand i was tanking in that time, had starting center whose i sold later for 150k, but i managed to win, all thnkx to patient.
If you can, watch 2nd half, pure example how patient tactic should work.Chaperon with stamina lvl2 in that time, scored 71pts in 46mins against dominant defensive team.

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278164.75 in reply to 278164.46
Date: 4/6/2016 11:23:23 AM
KK Mordor
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Mordors team was not balanced? Enough for me.
He could play every off tactic with those players.

The player with the most JR on his team was listed as a Power Forward and had a JR level of 10.

He only had one player with PA above 12.

His highest JS skill on a player was 17 but it was a player he used at Power Forward, other than that only one player had a JS level over 15.

But, no, yeah, I'm sure all of that would have been just as good as his IS levels of 19, 17, 17, 17, 17, and 17.


This is not true bro, i guess you didnt pay attention on my players...

I had more players with lvl12+ passing, i had player with higher JS then 17 too.

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278164.76 in reply to 278164.51
Date: 4/6/2016 11:28:02 AM
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Here's Javier Chaperon, Mordors SG in the final game.

He's probably one of the most outside oriented players on Mordors old roster, yet he has 3 PA and 9 JR. He's not meant to anything other than drive to the hoop 1v1 and score inside.

It worked. Clearly. He's one of the best players in the game. But versatile? Oh no.



Mordor's PG. I believed he was bred to be a D switcher as players like Xiofa (Played PF or Mordor in season 31) had 20 OD but played at PF.

Again, this player is meant to do one thing - drive inside on offense. He has little passing, and no jump range.




omg, are you noob or what?
How can you say that is Chaperon from my finals game???
Those players looks like that when i bought them, not to mention that i trained them?
Chaperon was on tl few days ago, still got passing 13 at yrs 35 and you claim he has passing lvl3...
Please, do not write NONSENCE AND LIES!

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278164.77 in reply to 278164.76
Date: 4/6/2016 11:58:48 AM
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I just had those pics from our offsite, they were the most recent ones available. Good to know they're out of date. Sorry if that rustled your jimmies a little.

The point still stands however, even 13 passing is a very small amount compared to his one on one skills. He's a player designed to drive to the hoop, not play an outside offense.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 4/6/2016 12:01:44 PM

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278164.78 in reply to 278164.76
Date: 4/6/2016 12:11:38 PM
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In addition, in no way was that supposed to be a slam on you, I think you built arguably the best BB team ever. But the point was that I believed you built it specifically to be good at LI, now that you're a part of the discussion, you can tell us if that is true or not.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 4/6/2016 12:21:27 PM

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278164.79 in reply to 278164.78
Date: 4/6/2016 1:17:26 PM
KK Mordor
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Well, you can think that i made team for strictly LI tactics, which is a part a true.Still, i was thinking how to play and other tactics, especially i was successful in patient and isolation.
At the other hand, i do not claim that my was dominant for outside tactics or whatsoever.
My point was that i had really, really good games on patient, even teams from my league used to predict that i would play it.
And about Chaperon, he was much better then he is on your post.That was how he looks at 25 yrs or so.
I trained him until 32, that would tell you something...
I respect Leonidas, he was really good opponent, as long with his mate Play off, whose i had as opponent in one of B3 finals.
About discussion, i can not speak about last 2 seasons, as i am not playing active, so i can only speak before it.
For that time inside tactics were dominant as 90% of teams played it.Still, i think tactic doesnt mean anything without good team, so for me, in this game, the most important thing is to have well built team

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278164.80 in reply to 278164.79
Date: 4/6/2016 1:49:57 PM
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Well, you can think that i made team for strictly LI tactics, which is a part a true.Still, i was thinking how to play and other tactics, especially i was successful in patient and isolation.
At the other hand, i do not claim that my was dominant for outside tactics or whatsoever.
My point was that i had really, really good games on patient, even teams from my league used to predict that i would play it

Oh I'm sure. A team like yours that thrived on 1v1 inside play would certainly do well isolating that matchup to their best scoring option.

And about Chaperon, he was much better then he is on your post.That was how he looks at 25 yrs or so.
I trained him until 32, that would tell you something...

I get that now. We had pictures on the offsite but clearly they were inaccurate.

i think tactic doesnt mean anything without good team, so for me, in this game, the most important thing is to have well built team :)

Makes sense. I think it would be quite interesting to hear more about the reasoning behind your team, I interview teams for the USA forums. It would be interesting to get your answers for an international edition.

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278164.81 in reply to 278164.80
Date: 4/6/2016 3:39:53 PM
KK Mordor
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Second Team:
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Well, you can think that i made team for strictly LI tactics, which is a part a true.Still, i was thinking how to play and other tactics, especially i was successful in patient and isolation.
At the other hand, i do not claim that my was dominant for outside tactics or whatsoever.
My point was that i had really, really good games on patient, even teams from my league used to predict that i would play it

Oh I'm sure. A team like yours that thrived on 1v1 inside play would certainly do well isolating that matchup to their best scoring option.

And about Chaperon, he was much better then he is on your post.That was how he looks at 25 yrs or so.
I trained him until 32, that would tell you something...

I get that now. We had pictures on the offsite but clearly they were inaccurate.

i think tactic doesnt mean anything without good team, so for me, in this game, the most important thing is to have well built team

Makes sense. I think it would be quite interesting to hear more about the reasoning behind your team, I interview teams for the USA forums. It would be interesting to get your answers for an international edition.

i would be honored to answer on it.

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