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93604.73 in reply to 93604.72
Date: 6/5/2009 2:18:22 PM
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It's good to hear we share positive views on the changes.


Not so sure i understand about the big country/small country "issue" at all....

"....As compensation, teams from smaller countries will find it easier to make up for the revenue difference by packing in local NT players which will be difficult in bigger countries..."

I´m interested in your reasoning here?



Allow me to post an excerpt of BB-Charles post earlier in the thread. You can backtrack for the full details.

Another compromise here comes between big and small countries. I'm sure many of you have strong feelings one way or the other about this; our goal is to keep the game fair between big and small countries, although we recognize that the game can never be identical between them. Adding a TV contract linked to the quality of the league is essential for the financial situation, but runs the risk of leaving smaller countries behind (I'm not worried about big countries that spend less, because as their spending goes up, so will their ability to maintain that budget). In return, smaller countries will be able to more easily have the best players in their nation, so that their merchandising income will help them compete.


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93604.74 in reply to 93604.73
Date: 6/5/2009 4:22:38 PM
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Well, still can´t say i get how it should be easier for smaller nations to get their hands on the best players in their nation. That has not been the case so far, the only proper talents i´ve been able to get my hands on from my nation is when i managed to draft them myself.

This season, finally, i might get my hands on someone but with lower potential and skills than i´d like.

As for a properly trained player.....can´t say i´ve seen any i would consider for my team.
Maybe it´ll be easier in 2-3 season when hopefully more developed talents hit the marked. Can´t see how it should be easier than for top teams in larger nations though.




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93604.75 in reply to 93604.74
Date: 6/5/2009 5:37:06 PM
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Maybe it's easier for smaller nations beacuse it's not that difficult to be in a higher divison and get it's revenues. Try to be in a second division team in Spain for example... just sayin'...

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93604.76 in reply to 93604.34
Date: 6/5/2009 6:27:06 PM
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The thrust of these changes (and the reason I approve of them) is not to reward division I teams as such (which, as I emphasized, they do not necessarily do). It is rather to enforce two of the guiding principles of BB:
1) that promotion must always be a reward (it was getting to the point that a life of victories in Div. II was better long term and short term than a life of mediocrity in Div. I).
2) that there should not be farm teams.



I would like to add one other goal:
3) That it is possible to win without going the New York Yankees / Manchester United route (basically buying victories). If the game engine works, those who truly understand basketball and what is necessary to produce success will win -- and I would argue that does not always mean having the team with the greater salary level winning. I find the challenge of truly building a team, of paying as much attention to my 8th, 9th and 10th players as my starters or assembling a useful coaching staff to be one of the charms of this BuzzerBeater game. I have not yet reached the elevated levels of Div II much less Div I, but I would hope these reforms keep open the possibility of reaching that level with something other than having seven or eight players earning six figure incomes each week.

That said, I hope the new guidelines -- especially the national character of teams -- are constructed as judiciously as the rest of the game. I can understand the reality of people liking to see local / national heroes, but I do not think that in this day and age this trumps winning. Fans like to see winners. Period. My squad looks like a cross section of the United Nations, but we have won. If I get a reduced TV contract because I have a motley crew of different nationalities without a $100,000 superstar and ignores that the fact that my team has gone something like 43 - 6 over the past two seasons, then I would think that was wrong.

But let us see how the Brain Trust has worked before we reach any conclusions. I think they know what they are doing.

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93604.77 in reply to 93604.76
Date: 6/5/2009 6:40:12 PM
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But let us see how the Brain Trust has worked before we reach any conclusions. I think they know what they are doing.

That's it, even though I voice my concern I TRUST the BB-team. Wow! I've never trusted anyone my whole life... hmm, does this belong in the "You're addicted to BB if..." thread? ..if you trust the BB's more than your own mother, or at least to be more fair then her.

Last edited by Svett Sleik (U21-Scout Norge) at 6/5/2009 6:41:22 PM

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93604.78 in reply to 93604.77
Date: 6/5/2009 7:54:49 PM
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Yes, "you are addicted to BB..."... :)))

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93604.79 in reply to 93604.74
Date: 6/5/2009 9:32:50 PM
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I think the reasoning behind it being easier for a manager from a small country is that the pool of managers is smaller. Hence, when a national player comes available on the TL, there are less managers from your country to outbid. I don't know if I agree with this because bids are still global, but I think that is what the BBs are thinking. Maybe.

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93604.80 in reply to 93604.79
Date: 6/5/2009 9:54:43 PM
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I think the reasoning behind it being easier for a manager from a small country is that the pool of managers is smaller. Hence, when a national player comes available on the TL, there are less managers from your country to outbid. I don't know if I agree with this because bids are still global, but I think that is what the BBs are thinking. Maybe.


i believe the national team players/prospects from smaller userbases go for more money and attract wider interest for the simple reason they can forecast that if well trained they will stay in the National team for much longer than if they come from a US/Spain/Italy etc.

Thats how i view it anyway. - Ironically now I am down to 1 NT flag... on an 18yo :D

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93604.81 in reply to 93604.80
Date: 6/5/2009 10:15:00 PM
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It's easier for the players from smaller nations to make it into the NT because of the small pool of managers. From that small pool, an even smaller portion trains local players while the rest go foreign. As an NT manager of a small nation, I'd say it is a big problem for us and most of the NT players are from a group of friends who banded together to train them. I hope with the new changes favouring local players we will see a bit of an improvement.

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93604.83 in reply to 93604.80
Date: 6/6/2009 12:52:26 AM
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That's a good point, although I haven't noticed NT players from Thailand selling for more money than an Italian of the same skill set. Wasin Kongudom, Rachen Wintikul, and Lars Rod all sold fairly recently and they brought market price or below.

At any rate it's a good point you make and definitely possible.

Last edited by somdetsfinest at 6/6/2009 1:05:04 AM

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