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In games where you lose most of the time, your coach will try and keep the starters in the game as long as possible in order to catch up, believing you've set the best possible players as starters. This is nothing unusual.

If you want more control over your minutes, you've got to use strictly follow...

ok, just a question then:
In this game (52703966)

i did use strictly follow depth chart, but trenton funk just played 3 minutes. He was set as a reserve at sf and is a better player then the one which played as starter- so why did he just play 3 minutes? Does this mean, that i don´t even have control over my minutes when i use strictly follow depth chart ?

Did you set Gocke as Back up but Funk & Oser as Reserve?

Last edited by MJ at 12/30/2012 4:11:22 AM

If you want more control over your minutes, you've got to use strictly follow...

ok, just a question then:
In this game (52703966)

i did use strictly follow depth chart, but trenton funk just played 3 minutes. He was set as a reserve at sf and is a better player then the one which played as starter- so why did he just play 3 minutes? Does this mean, that i don´t even have control over my minutes when i use strictly follow depth chart ?

Did you set Gocke as Back up but Funk & Oser as Reserve?

Sorry, i haven't made my statement properly:
lütfüh nezih was set as a starter, his backup was trenton funk and reserve was again lütfüh nezih. this setup was made for every position except my training position. As i said before, I really can't understand, why trennton funk, a player who is much better than lütfüh nezih, receives just 3minutes playing time, when i play strictly follow depth chart. i would expect at least 12 minutes, but if this is normal, i may have to adapt my tactic. So thanks marin.

So it leads to a new question: why Oser and Funk played only 3 minutes but Gocke played 12?
Gocke is far weaker than his Starter, Also Wippel had played well, no foul and no injury.
the answer is somewhere among stamina, tactic and bug!

would you tell us how much are wippel's and nezih's staminas?

So it leads to a new question: why Oser and Funk played only 3 minutes but Gocke played 12?
Gocke is far weaker than his Starter, Also Wippel had played well, no foul and no injury.
the answer is somewhere among stamina, tactic and bug!

would you tell us how much are wippel's and nezih's staminas?

good questions:

wippel has a 4 and nezih has a 7 in stamina- which could be an explanation....

so it can explain the difference of minutes, however I think 4 is not low enough for this difference and would rather see 1 or 2 for him.

My coach refused to follow my lineup. I had 9 players active, and all players had a spot on my depth chart. Yes, I used "Strictly Follow Depth Chart". And yes I used the "Load Former Match Tactics" option to verify my lineup after the game was over.

A player set at PF ended up playing 10 of 13 minutes at SG. While my coach brought back my starting center to play PF much of garbage time. As well as bringing back my Starting PF & starting SF parts of garbage time....

How does this even happen??? It was this game: (58718620)




Last edited by shikago at 3/21/2013 10:35:25 PM

at the end of the 3rd quarter / all 4th quarter it should have been:

PG: A. Žibutis
SG: M. Toupeira
SF: T. Dozier
PF: J. Albano
C: T. Alas


Instead it was:

PG: A. Žibutis
SG: J. Albano
SF: T. Dozier
PF: A. Oliveros, P. Gutierrez, C. Ghiberti
C: T. Alas


All those players who came in at PF were starters with others behind them on the depth chart. And again, Albano was set to PF on the depth chart.

Last edited by shikago at 3/21/2013 10:31:36 PM

Same thing happened to be yesterday

I had 7 players playing
PG at starter backup reserve
SF at starter backup reserve
PF at starter backup reserve

SG had 1 backup and reserve (same guy)
C had 1 backup and reserve (same guy)

What happened is during garbage time, the backup SG got in for main SG, and then the main SG replaced my PG that was set for main backup and reserve. There was no foul trouble

If you don't mind, I'm going to put the whole lineup here.

9 players in the roster

Starters:
PG: Vasquez
SG: Toupeira
SF: Ghiberti
PF: Gutierrez
C: Oliveros

Backup:
PG: Žibutis
SG: Toupeira
SF: Dozier
PF: Alas
C: Alas

Reserve:
PG: Žibutis
SG: Toupeira
SF: Dozier
PF: Albano
C: Alas

So, here's what happened, and bear in mind that the reserve lienup does not mean it has to be followed to the letter in garbage time. When garbage time started, the coach was looking for players to replace the starters. A couple of the backups were set (Žibutis, Dozier, Alas at PF and C), and the coach put them in. Notice that Alas had to be set at two positions. He decided he'd do more good at C. Two positions were left with starters (SG with Toupeira and PF with Gutierrez). He's now looking for replacements for them and on the bench, there's only Albano. For some unknown reason (which is a bug), he decided to use Albano on the SG position. He wasn't looking at the reserve lineup, he was just looking to rest the starters. He then proceeds to rotate a couple of starters on the PF position and the rest is history.

This is definitely a problem in the game engine coding. I'm sure you know how complex the GE is, and it has it's imperfections, so I'm not running away from that. Fixing this code will probably take a long time and I'm not going to sugar coat it, it's hard, it's needs lots of testing and it probably not going to happen this season but eventually we'll fix it.

Until then, there is no other solution but to prevent such situations by setting different backups for all positions but the ones you need players to play 48 minutes on. I this case, setting Albano as a backup on PF would prevent the ensuing mess with player rotation.

I'm aware that this is not what you wanted to hear, but at the moment, it's the best I can do.

I have no explanation. 3 minutes till the end of the game, the coach just decided to go crazy and replace the starters with available benched players. The only thing that could have made him do that is their weak stamina, but in case of Benklifa, the stamina wasn't that bad (inept). Looks like garbage time really does result in some crazy minutes sometimes.