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But how many of those players can you fit on a roster without losing money?

Is your goal to stay in division II or to get to division I? If it is to stay in division II, I agree with your rationale. However, to get to division I and stay there, you need to have AT LEAST 3 players in the 80K-125K range.

Also, people always seem to talk about the weekly profit here but forget that you can train to make profits. So if your goal is to make it to division I and stick, you should stash about 5-10 million this season, while picking up enough player salaries for next season to win your series (even if that means losing money on a weekly basis). Then you should have a plan to train a couple of players to 80-125K in salary, then pick up another 1-2 when you promote.

Finally, when I talk about players with 80-125K in salary making the most profit, I am not talking about players with no side skills. I mean, for example, a SG who can handle and pass the ball with a good amount of stamina and free throws.

If you really want to make money in this game, staying in division II should not be an option.

Last edited by HeadPaperPusher at 3/23/2010 1:51:21 PM

I know they have almost the same salary - my point was if the wage calculation differed this 'may' encourage more thoughtful training.

If you knew you could build up a triple stupendous big man and it would cost you $325k a week without secondaries but you knew he would cost you $225k with reasonable secondaries 1) You could tailor your training / economy to budget for this + you could look at any investment as viable for the long term rather than looking upon someone as a 'quick fix' to win you a couple of games knowing that you would likely have to sell the player in question on shortly after.

The level of salaries you're talking about,will affect few team that could afford these kind of players
And at the level of medium wages,it would be however more convenient to train primary skills to improve a player
I don't see this as a proposal which can help to have a fairly based game,not only who is lucky at the draft will have players with better secondaries skills,but he will have also a lower salary to pay for him.
The new economic course is a disaster,I have an economical roster - 215k of player salaries in italian III division is enough only to fight for avoid the relegation,the top teams have to spend also 100k more to fight for the II division - and I will be tie in the incomes/expenses budget.What kind of system is that?A team who is build in a right economical way cannot made profit,only because the level of incomes is to low for the competition that it has to afford?
I think someone should think about it,if we think that this is the alternative solution to the question,mentioned many times,of the economy in competitive/non competitive countries(which often,but not always means big/small countries)

how can you NEED to have a salary of 215K to fight for relegation.. what do these other teams in your division have for revenue? is it dramatically above yours? it really shouldn't be if you are managing your team correctly... and so these other teams that are spending 100K more than you are I would argue doing something to better manage their teams... they trained better, they invested wisely in their arena, they managed ticket prices better... they kept their fans happy... did all the management right.. which allows them to spend 100K more and compete to move up.

They can't be operating in the red, they will go bankrupt.

OR maybe they aren't really spending that much more than you are, and they are just getting a better team for the same money?

all the teams that remain in my conference from past season spend more than me on roster salaries,and have arenas equal or smaller than the mine;I made good results with my team,Ii arrive second in my conference past season
They have medium week loss,but managing to go beyond some round in the cup,or selling some reserve player they can manage to survive with their roster for all the season
And reducing the level of the team should mean to be relegated in Iv division
If you don't beleieve me,check out my league

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/league/259/overview.aspx?seas...




Last edited by Foto at 3/24/2010 2:37:51 PM

I have looked at your league.. you have a very successful team financially.. earn in the top 4, and within 10K dollars of the most anybody makes, yet you spend much less on salaries than most of the other teams, and yet you finished in the playoffs last year. I would suggest that you are probably a really good manager at getting a lot out of less salary, but it certainly looks to me like you could afford pay more for players.

really that is too much of an insult to Steven... his team made the playoffs.. which can't really be said of good ole Donald... and i've seen his coach in action.. he is no Mike Dunleavy (for those unfamiliar.. that is a good thing).

Last edited by BB-Forrest at 3/24/2010 3:18:49 PM

I have looked at your league.. you have a very successful team financially.. earn in the top 4, and within 10K dollars of the most anybody makes, yet you spend much less on salaries than most of the other teams, and yet you finished in the playoffs last year. I would suggest that you are probably a really good manager at getting a lot out of less salary, but it certainly looks to me like you could afford pay more for players.

Thanks,I only tried to make a good job with my team
I'm surely not the best manager of the game,I made a lot of mistakes(last season I sacrifice the cup with great financial lost)
The problem is,also if I could spend more for salaries,I have non money to buy some players,because I had in the previous seasons a conservative roster policy.This is the question that worry me,I should start a new cycle of training(after my main trainee became a great Sf) with the guards,but my first choice in my list at draft that i pick up was a 19years old sixth man potential
My situation maybe is a good picture of the main questions that afflict BBs.Also if I managed well my team,I'm not able to raise money beacause I cannot go under a certain level of expenses to mantain a decent team,and I cannot increase my incomes because I have a strict arena cap towards who plays in a similar division in another country,that have to spedn maybe the half for making a good job in his league.I tried to find a player in the draft,spending a medium amount of money(10k/week for all the previous system),and also finding the first player in my list,a five balls in pre-draft assesments,i receive a useless players for the develpoing of my team
I have to invent something new now,because my adversaries as godd managers as I am,and every year they became stronger and stronger
That's why a player lke me feel hungry and frustrated when he had to suffer for other's problems.And i think there are many manager that think like me all over the world
Sorry if I in te previous posts seemed a little presumptuos,but if my(medium manager) voice isn't listen because the attention is concentrated to the problems of few users,I think it's human to lose a sometimes the control ;D