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For me it's impossible, that player, who was good enough to play one season earlier, after one season of training (I think by level 6 or 7 trainer) suddenly is too weak to play one season later.

If it is impossible for you to understand, then that means you are not playing with a full deck.

I will break it down for you...my HOF player is only 6'2....what trains the slowest for a short player?....Big skills..I trained his REB,IS,SB last season so he became the 5th best big(sometimes the 4th due to GS).
This season I am training all OD,passing and JR......so it is POSSIBLE that other bigs have passed him up in big skills, and it is POSSIBLE that he isn't the 5th best PG/SG, but he is going to be 2nd string SF next season...
I will let you even see what skills he has....
Jump Shot: EatyourheartoutJordan ↑ Jump Range: superduper(started out a 3)
Outside Def.: legendary Handling: legendary
Driving: legendary Passing: legendary
Inside Shot: strong ↑ Inside Def.: amazing(started out a 4)
Rebounding: stank good Shot Blocking: legendary

I trained 1 on 1Fs last week and now will do 3 more OD and 3 more passing and ID during the offseason.
As you can see....he isn't ready to start anywhere.....just think If he were 18 instead of 19 when I drafted him...



Last edited by Yellow cake at 8/11/2013 11:10:44 AM

Well, I am shooting for 80 by the end of this season. I am only expecting about 12 pops next season.(4 OD, 4 passing, 3 JR, and 1 ID) I am guessing he won't see 100 TSP until the offseason when he is 22 turning 23.

Most def.....I am looking at something around 180K PG. I will keep his JS down to 14ish and get his JR up to 13ish. OD up to 18 and passing to 16...with high driving(not now) and IS he could do some damage. Now Malice is making a very good PG...the birdman already has double digit passing and is shaping up to be something special.

BTW...Asano should get another OD pop today.....look out!!!

Last edited by Yellow cake at 8/9/2013 3:17:20 AM

The Birdman fits in nicely with my training plans. K-Mat & Tim need secondary work, so it coincides well with the creation of a good PG for his final year of U21s. Post that, he'll see a lot of work on his secondaries - then back to some polishing on his primaries.
I figure by age 24 he might be ready for some NT duty... should everything go according to plan.

He's also the first trainee I've drafted and trained, and having a good point to run with my 2 bigs will be gratifying.

2 seasons ago when Shin Shidehara was on the U21 team we had a ton of great PGs like him & Tomohito Matsuyama from Stunners. Tomohito Matsuyama has had 6 weeks training at C since & Shin has had a few as well as a lot of 1on1F so they may both end up being decent NT PGs with good secondary skills.

Where I am failing is with Ryu Minami (30246003). You can look I have been trying to get him the minutes but he refuses to pop, he has fouled out early 4 times, been injured & just totally sucks, after a season of training no primaries above average.

Three point guards is a pretty good set of players to train.

It's impossible to train properly 3 players in long term.

Don't you have a bridge to attend to?

If it is impossible for you to understand, then that means you are not playing with a full deck.

Please imagine, that it's "little" harder to create NT/U21 player in Poland than in Japan.

As you can see....he isn't ready to start anywhere.....

Few weeks ago and one season ago his skills weren't higher however he was ready...

Are all his skills proper? When I was NTM and You wrote skills of Asano or Motori on this forum, You always used to add +1 to every skill ;-)

78 TSP at 20, that is VERY good for starting at 19

It's VERY doubtful that he has 78 TSP currently.

Please put described skills into salary calculator - it calculates salary = ~7,7k. What is very important it's salary for PF. Salary for PG is very close so it's possible that player is listed as PG.
However there are few other amazing things. We are after 9 training since last salary update. Only 9 trainings. Meada's salary = 3,5k. It seems impossible to almost double salary after 9 trainings. Interesting as well is history of possitions played by Maeda in this season - it indicates possible trainings. So we have:

(in order: week number in current season / possition played by Maeda / possible trainings):
1. sf/pf (DV or JS)
2. pg (OD or PS - I bet, however JS or DV or HN still possible)
3. pg (OD or PS - I bet)
4. sg (JR or JS or DV)
5. sg (JR or JS or DV)
6. pg (OD or PS - I bet)
7. pg (OD or PS - I bet)
8. pf/sf (DV - according to YC's post)
9. pg (OD - according to YC's post)

So we see that Maeda trained practically only outside skills in this season. However his salary for PF possition is almost doubled. It seems impossible, because IS/ID/RB/SB weren't trained. Of course JS increases salary for PF possition, but to double salary for PF possition 6-7 pops of JS is needed. It's hard to make 7 JS pops in 9 weeks.

So I expect that Maeda hasn't 78 TSP now. TSP = 68 and every skill worse by 1 than described seems more probable. I could be wrong however it's easy to prove. In buzzer-manager exists trustworthy tool which allows to share skills of own players in this way:
http://lien.buzzer-manager.com/upu82ppfmntxdjlk2g03zf5kxp...

Last edited by B.B.King at 8/9/2013 12:44:44 PM