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260959.74 in reply to 260959.70
Date: 7/29/2014 10:34:50 AM
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Top team still making millions a season


That is definitely troubling, and something that the BBs should do something about if, I don't know, it ever becomes more real than leprechaun on unicorn porn. The teams making huge amount of money are those who do one or more of the following things:

1. Tank in a very high level series, which is a short-term money accumulation and is not something that is successful over the long run
2. Stay in lower level series, keep low salaries but still win and maybe even get good players in the draft
3. Buy players for 10,000 and list them continually for 299,999 until newbie or second team purchases them.

But for teams actually competing at the top levels, without daytrading, there's no way they're making millions per season as you claim, and if they found a way to, more power to them. Aren't you the one, after all, complaining about being limited by BB because "some manager was beating beat some in managing areas, Somebody went and cried to the GM?" Heck, if any of the guys in the NBBA are carrying the salaries they need to be a playoff team there and not trading players like they're leprous pokemon and turning massive profits, that's worthy of great praise, not crying about it.

I beg to differ ,nba teams have more le-way than BB. For starters there no restriction who a team can afford.
Salary Cap. (http://lmbtfy.com/?q=nba+salary+cap)

A player can take any deal and ,ake a offer to team. KObe can play for the Charlottes bobcats if he wanted too, oh because the bob cats didn't train him ,he not welcome. oh because he want 20 million, that s a cop-out. kobe can say I want 10 mill . In BB we cant do that.


Except you're not the Bobcats. The Bobcats are, at worst, the 30th best team in the best league in the world. The equivalent to the Bobcats in BB is a mid-level playoff team in II, since in theory the top 16 teams in the country are in the NBBA, and the 14th best team in II is a competitor but not in line for promotion. But you're currently ranked as the 624th best team in the USA, so essentially that would be on a level below college. If you think some AAU/rec league team should be out there buying Kobe and Lebron to really dominate their nemesis from the Police Athletic League, more power to you - go try to pull it off in real life and earn the glory that would be rightfully yours.


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260959.75 in reply to 260959.74
Date: 7/29/2014 11:37:03 AM
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Wow, I consider myself one of the top teams (delusional?) and I am not making millions. Hell, I am making less money thatn D5 team. Unfortunately top players cost top money. There is no bonus for winning the league (whats up with that? You make money for winning everything else) so in order to win in a highly compeatitive league you are in fact losing money!

Tanking is prevented by salary floor (oh well, profits from it are limited), and I like new tax (kind of like luxury-tax in NBA) and it affects probably less than 1% of teams out there. Only change I am not so warm towards is GDP. Of course scouting helps but it introduces undesired randomness in game (but it did succeed in stopping teams from playing LI all the time)

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260959.76 in reply to 260959.74
Date: 7/29/2014 12:20:51 PM
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Keep picking the parts You like to reply too. To seem like you have a rebuttal. I placed a meal,not a snack. Again nba salary does not restrict who they can sign. Because again if you missed it which I posted very clearly, the player can go under his net worth and sign to any ball club he chooses, what your showing that only in salary trades in Bb we don't have any of that. There is no trading again clue less reaching point. on your behalf. On BB we cannot do that. Btw the bobcat made the playoffs last year and was one of league top defenses. So much for knowing your NBA. Also keep your mouth shut my team because this not about my team period.. Ranking on here mean nothing, I was ranked as 235 or 335 at one point which mean nothing. You'll be ranked number 1 the way the numbers are dropping in the game. The sad thing is ,no one will be here to see it.

NBBA teams sells players every year. Almost a new roster every year. Go look, some time. the ones that don't have very high skilled players, they always looking for high skilled youth. with tax emp you think they not.?? with him they sell and get 1-2 million back to pick up any payments for the next season, also to make run at the title or run at b3, its not a secret. Yes it cost more than that to make run at B3.


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Date: 7/29/2014 12:36:35 PM
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Your second point, I was going to pay support the game. I was already here as a member to support, understand the big difference.?? Then tax happened, restrictions happen. I'm not going to pay for a tax, you can if you like . I see your from Canada and that kind of thing is very common up there. Paying for a restriction tax

Your reading comprehension is not well, the way I used climate was not talking about the natural weather. The BB market is the climate im discussing, in a world time zone bidding way.. If you understand how it works , how it functions and all area are not the same in bidding to win etc. Thats called "a climate". You understand?

I disagree on 1player training. All slot should be able to train any skill period . There is steep cost to these things. Which evens it out in my small opinion. which bring mass revenue, which build faster arena's and better players healthier market.. which end tanking..This is a team tactical game, not a Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant fantasy camp.

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Date: 7/29/2014 12:54:21 PM
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New flash .. Nba player play in small summer pro am leagues.. which is about the same as div 3 colleges with nba players. So LeBron never played in a Nyc city league? or kobe, MJ. Dr j. kevin durant.. derrick rose. . almost every body has played in summer pro am league.. and YEs they are paid to play.

Protection??. Its a manager finance game.. Btw I bought a player for 250k when 1st played, I'm not bankrupt, you know I had player freedom at the time to put together a small supporting cast and do arena. In which the game provided to start, player freedom of choice.. Also I don't think people are fine with these restricts, people are leaving everyday even faster in small my opinion. Once they find out that rookie is not a 1 million dollar sale. they quit, that what's it about now. The golden egg. Im not being rude here. A lot don't seem to understand new players want a fast start, a good team, training and that jazz in not on the menu. It will be later if they stay.. but with the way the draft is.. lol..



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Date: 7/29/2014 12:56:57 PM
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Keep picking the parts You like to reply too. To seem like you have a rebuttal. I placed a meal,not a snack.


You fertilized an entire valley, and I'm only picking up a few of the turds lying near my feet.

Again nba salary does not restrict who they can sign. Because again if you missed it which I posted very clearly, the player can go under his net worth and sign to any ball club he chooses, what your showing that only in salary trades in Bb we don't have any of that.


And the main examples of that are players taking less money to go play for a championship contender, right? So the BB equivalent would be that a guy who has a 100k salary per week would ask you to pay that amount (or, heck, even more because he's going so far down the league structure) but he'd decide to take 25k/week to get onto the roster of the leaders in the NBBA. I don't want to put words into your mouth, especially knowing how they get abused while in there, but you can't seriously think that is a good idea.

NBBA teams sells players every year. Almost a new roster every year. Go look, some time. the ones that don't have very high skilled players, they always looking for high skilled youth. with tax emp you think they not.??


Like who? The teams that have promoted up have of course added a lot of new players, I know Eugene changed some of his roster around, and of course Delta 9 has bought a ton of scrimmage fodder players and fired them over the past few months. But people staying in the NBBA and selling off their teams for profit and rebuilding for the next year with that cash? It's not happening, certainly not routinely, and definitely not profitably. And they sure as heck aren't looking for high skilled youth until they're tanking, since you can't play an 18 year old trainee in the NBBA regularly, nor can you in the stages of the Cup that they need to get to to keep their salaries afloat.



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Btw I bought a player for 250k when 1st played


Not true.
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/30775/transferhistory.as...)

Now, you spent over 200k on Gradzik because ...well, who knows. And there's nothing to prevent any one of the top 716524 teams in the world from buying a player like him if he was available today. But what needs to be protected is teams buying players for $2k that have a $200k salary and bankrupt them within weeks.


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this must be the Nth time the guy named glass trolled a BB forum. and... it still works. he still gets replies. he must be laughing all the way to the bathroom.

congratulations, glass.

now, if you excuse me, i'll go to sleep for a while, until a new idea has been posted and wakes me up.

regards.

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You fertilized an entire valley, and I'm only picking up a few of the turds lying near my feet.



That was funny. SCA-BAM!

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Date: 7/30/2014 3:34:19 PM
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I disagree. New team don't need any protection to start , once they go bankrupt then you can do that instrument of issues in protection. Its no point in restricting who you can buy period because the starting team you get is less than attractive its only natural buy players. Could you show who can buy that good under 100,000 if the weekly wage is not pushing 30k-50+ a week . The market has gotten expensive not cheaper not more diverse in players styles made.. A player don't know what to look for, there for they get a old player with crazy skills.. young player are very expensive with the same skills... longitivity is the key to success with players

I know it good to use the you can get a trainee for cheap, of course thats very true. but he is any good? No, you have to train him with the market trainers at all time high costs its problem -matic. they will not understand 1 position training nor know how to do to the max levels like the Chinese on BB... So Cop-out answers don't work with me. Its not fair to anyone,nor is it right.

My view is very simple to understand, once a player go bankrupt then you can do all debt things. why struggle them to start. The money is already low , arena is very costly.. Give them a chance to read the guide and go about it like in the past., before throw down sanction and restricts. I bought a 200-250k player why cant the next man, timeline should not matter in that. If they want the help let him/her choose. Which is fair.

Its a manager's finance game. Baby sitting don't help them learn it, It,help them quit. because you over complicate the matter with restricts. I put a cure for tanking but none ever listen. If your making money you don't need to tank, if young player have 1 position training for all slots they get better faster..

You can create more better players with all sort of array of skills for tactics play. Restrict will never allow this. because that young player will get to expensive which = sale. one player at time is not the answer. Let them make money, let player train in a better fashion.

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