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315209.744 in reply to 315209.743
Date: 5/31/2023 1:40:21 AM
Tampines Fusion
SBBL
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
ActiveSG Basketball Academy
I guess one could find reasons and explanations but still, usually its very strange

I do agree that it is strange, or at least not the norm we are used to. It's just like the previous thread I opened (you also replied to it): (318313.1)

Somehow there seems to be a random factor or something, where despite having good game shape and much better skills, your player will still mess up.

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315209.745 in reply to 315209.744
Date: 5/31/2023 4:00:38 AM
Tbilisi Mavericks
Umaglesi Liga
Overall Posts Rated:
6767
If it were 2 or 3 games i would just pass on it, cause there is random factor u cant do anything with it and have to accept, just like in real basketball. But watching so many games where things get this random is too strange, even that example you cited from my earlier post. If my 2-3 zone gets torched that much with neutral offence and my players with 20 OD, how come my team shoots bricks against 2-3 zone with more than capable shooters (by skills) most of the time?
https://buzzerbeater.com/player/46707579/overview.aspx
After I bought this player last season, in regular season games (played 10 games in regular season) this is what his stats were: 60-135 FG (44.4%) 15/49 3 PTs (30.6%)
Out of those 10 games, 5 were inside tactics, 4 outside and one neutral (PTB). Opponent defences were set to M2M 6 times, Pressure was used once and 2-3 zone 3times.
And the skills of this guy were: 26-20 JS/JR, 16OD, 20/20 HA/DR. I doubt there are many shooters with better skills, but I/ve seen 16/14, 18/12 guys hitting well over 40% 3pointers in volumes, while this dude shot miserable 44% fg and 30% 3pt, while he was in 8-9 game shape most of the time.
https://buzzerbeater.com/player/48067660/overview.aspx
I also owned this guy for a season or two, he also had around 20-12 JS/JR and more than 20 (25 if i remember correctly) HA/DR, his 3pt shooting was also not that great. I dont know, these teams for example
https://buzzerbeater.com/team/175753/overview.aspx
https://buzzerbeater.com/team/175870/overview.aspx
play outside offences most of the time, and there shooting is great, unless somebody uses 1-3-1 cause they are too predictable. And I've seen some of their players and they are not even close to that great shooters, but still shooting 45% 3pts season in and season out.
https://buzzerbeater.com/player/46236939/overview.aspx
this guy who is for 8 seasons in this team, was 120k player and only in 1 season he shot under 40% 3pts, while in other 7 seasons (and he was 34 and 35 in two of those 7 seasons with 70K salary) he shot well over 40%.
Too strange for me.

Last edited by Nicolas at 5/31/2023 4:03:25 AM

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315209.746 in reply to 315209.745
Date: 5/31/2023 7:47:16 AM
Tbilisi Mavericks
Umaglesi Liga
Overall Posts Rated:
6767
https://buzzerbeater.com/match/125724843/boxscore.aspx
Another example of stupidity.
Me defending LI with 2-3. His outside shooting is non existent for B3 level, average (average), my outside def is strong (high). Guess what, despite playing LI, he shoots 5/10 on 3pointers (50%!!)
Zommer and Carvalhos shot 5/28 (17%) and 3/27 (11%!!) on 3pts last season. Guess what, they both made 3pointers. I know I played the zone and players do switch, but those 2 guys (playing on pg/sg) originally were defended by my pg/sgs with 20 and 21 OD.
When I play LI or LP I usually have 0 made 3pts with higher outside offence against not that great opponents outside defence. Hard to explain
Even if you look at my opponents previous B3 game. his inept outside offence rating provided 3/11 3pointers against opponents prominent outside defense. In my case I would have gone 0-15 in the same situation i guess

Last edited by Nicolas at 5/31/2023 7:53:52 AM

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315209.748 in reply to 315209.747
Date: 6/1/2023 2:04:06 AM
Tbilisi Mavericks
Umaglesi Liga
Overall Posts Rated:
6767
I think lucky factor was their overall rating advantage. On my side, I was defending their LI with 2-3 zone. Considering our offense and defense and the tactics we used, it was pretty much equal strength. Even talking about ratings, 5/10 3 pointers doesnt make sense at all with his outside scoring rating. As to PP100, only position he had advantage was PF, 1-3 positions his PP100 was lower than mine (on SF it was almost same) and on C he had a slight advantage, almost the same here as well.
72:65 with 2:13 remaining and 0:10 rest of the game, great. Also my PF with 0-11 fg is just funny, yes he got exhausted in 4th quarter but he was 0/7 or 0/8 even before that when he's shooting around 60%+ in league and NT as well. Oh, and 6 missed FTs as well, the lowest ft rating for my player was 15 on 1 player, the rest had 19 in ft.
I've lost much worse and painful games than this, no problem with that but it is outside tactics that drives me crazy I cant figure out. I thought 18/12, 20/12 JS/JR wasnt that great and got 26/20 guy that also didnt deliver for half of the season. I dont know, i want to make my offense diverse, but it is painfully hard to make it work most of the time when using outside tactics

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315209.750 in reply to 315209.749
Date: 6/1/2023 5:34:01 PM
Tbilisi Mavericks
Umaglesi Liga
Overall Posts Rated:
6767
First of all this isnt real life basketball games. But even considering your point, I've had lots of players with different builds, but outside shooting always was too strange for me no matter the players. My other players (not the one with 26/20 js-jr) have way too high inside scoring, and more than enough passing also, but problem remains the same. And i dont think inside scoring has to do anything with 3pt shooting and its %

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315209.753 in reply to 315209.752
Date: 6/3/2023 7:37:22 PM
Aussie Pride
ABBL
Overall Posts Rated:
545545
Isolation Offences are classed as Balanced Focus.

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