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146657.75 in reply to 146657.72
Date: 6/15/2010 12:17:58 AM
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I hate to prolong this mess, but:

It makes no sense to say it will be released on one day, and then either wait til the last possible moment, or the next day, its obviously going to be an event in the season that players are anxious to see. I don't care if they said it was coming out on the 20th at 12:00, but just try to meet that time. It just makes business sense to meet deadlines, particularly arbitrary ones they set well in advance. If its difficult for the servers to process it, then have the lists released at a more manageable date, unless there were unforeseen circumstances in which case provide better communication. And for some reason, I think of this as a business as opposed to the BB's doing this out of the goodness of their hearts to 99% of us lowly non-supporters who should be grateful for whatever they provide.

Sorry, as a non-supporter I should probably stop using the high volume message boards now.


1) They explicitly said that this is a server intensive process and that they lists may not be available until after Monday in the stickied post. It's pretty clear.

2) My point about people not paying for it is that server space is in many ways limited by how much money they have to reinvest into infrastructure. The reason why many MMOGs run smoothly is because they charge high monthly fees to both make a profit and to handle the server load. Many other sports games just completely shut down for long periods of time while processing is happening. So given the four choices of:
(a) making everyone who plays pay
(b) have long periods of downtime during processing of major game components
(c) a drastic reduction in features like in game chat, message boards, national teams, etc.
(d) slightly longer processing time on things that have no direct impact on game play

I would certainly pick D. You can't get everything without giving something up and I am really, really glad that the developers have chosen to go with D in order to continue to make a high quality game that is mostly free to the vast majority of users.

That's all I was getting at. I wasn't saying supporters are more worthy or anything dumb like that. I was pointing out that the fact that they've chosen to make the game (which is laden with features) mostly free comes with some limitations. One of which is that some processing takes awhile.

(For the record: I wasn't a supporter for a long time, one of the reasons I bought it was because I wanted to reward the developers for treating supporters almost the exact same as free players which is not the case with most games like this.)

Last edited by chris902 at 6/15/2010 12:30:47 AM

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146657.76 in reply to 146657.75
Date: 6/15/2010 12:29:56 AM
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I would certainly pick D. You can't get everything without giving something up and I am really, really glad that the developers have chosen to go with C in order to continue to make a high quality game that is mostly free to the vast majority of users.


think u meant D not C.

other then that well said.

From: akuma
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Date: 6/15/2010 12:32:23 AM
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Off-topic:
Just because they don't charge you to play doesn't necessarily mean they aren't making money from you. Notice the ads in the top and side windows? They are making money off those. I would hazard a guess and say the bulk of their income is from advertising, not from supporter fees (I am saying this based on other free services that make a huge amount of money such as facebook). Supporter or not, the players of this game are helping generate income and are hence valid customers and have a right to complain or comment about things that are not to their satisfaction without having "this is a free game, deal with it or stfu" thrown in their face.

On-topic:
They did say that the draft would begin processing on monday. No promises on when it would be finished. Until then, back to refreshing my draft screen...click....

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146657.78 in reply to 146657.76
Date: 6/15/2010 12:32:40 AM
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think u meant D not C.

other then that well said.

Yes.. thanks for catching that. (and in particular thanks for catching that before someone who disagrees with me caught it)


Anyway, I am done with this as it's become an argument that I never meant to start. I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore.

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146657.80 in reply to 146657.77
Date: 6/15/2010 2:02:05 AM
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off topic:
I don't think any one's saying 'this is a free game stfu.'
Well at least I'm not. :)

And agreed on comment about revenue to an extent. But I don't really wanna make assumptions.

Anyway, think some of us are just saying that there's a lot to be said about being patient, especially as you mentioned 'no promises' were being made. Rather than being sarcastic or demanding in an impolite way where the update was. Or insinuating that non-supporters are not getting as 'good' a deal as supporters.

just my 2 cents

on topic:
ZOMG! VER MAI DLAFT PECK!!! : (

From: SplitJ
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146657.81 in reply to 146657.80
Date: 6/15/2010 2:31:53 AM
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wise choice or dumb choice?

spending 30k all season since I was 5th or 6th on the ladder and was focusing on training but then competitiveness came over me and took 3rd spot.. ;(

dumb dumb dumb choice....

anyways... WHERES THE DRAFT??????!!!!!

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146657.82 in reply to 146657.80
Date: 6/15/2010 2:33:54 AM
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yes agreed with the patience bit.

i myself have been extremely patient. i must have clicked refresh at least 200 times by now (throughout the day), if not more :D
i just hope i haven't set myself up for a let down when the draft comes out and they're all rejects :(

*fingers crossed*

cmooooonnnn baby!!!!

From: SplitJ

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146657.83 in reply to 146657.82
Date: 6/15/2010 2:35:38 AM
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LoL dw.
you are sure to get the very best players out of the draft since bots cant draft for shizzz

good luck!

3 great draftees and your set

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146657.84 in reply to 146657.82
Date: 6/15/2010 2:36:31 AM
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lol!!

I woke up 5.50 a.m!!! on monday... thats like 35 hours ago =P

all anxious to see the draft pick and been spamming too!!!

I need sleep!!! *shifty eyes around office*

From: akuma

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146657.85 in reply to 146657.81
Date: 6/15/2010 2:44:45 AM
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wise choice I'd say

Think of it this way:
48 players in the draft, 2 scouts per player = 96 scouting trips required to completely know the entire draft class.

Scenario 1 (4 players / week):
4 * 22 = 88 scouts = 91.6% coverage

Scenario 2 (3 players / week):
3 * 22 = 66 scouts = 68.75% coverage

Scenario 3 ( 2 players / week):
2 * 22 = 44 scouts = 45.8% coverage

Scenario 4 (1 player / week):
1 * 22 = 22 scouts = 22.9% coverage

Not many people would fork out the 40k to scout 4 players a week so theres always a chance that a good player would go undiscovered by the serious scouters. And spending 20k a week for 22 weeks (440,000)? Well worth it I'd say - a good trainee on the TL is hella expensive these days >.<

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