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Higher enthusiasm, most likely same gameshape (strong/proficient). Almost all my players had higher stamina in the 2nd game.

With a cooler head i realized that:

1) In the 1st game my center fouled out early and coach put in my combo guard at center with 8 passing

2) In the 2d game although my handling and passing was better at the PG and PF spots, my center had "typical" passing which was probably negated by his better center.

Still it was weird to see such a disparity in FG% from the 1st game to the 2nd. I doubt he was training guards (resulting in better OD).

I always found that slower Offenses work best aginst poor Defensive teams, as you will move the ball more for a better shot, which you can get against a bad defense. Against better defensive teams I would run slightly up tempo offenses as you would want to take the first good shot you got, passing that up my result in a last second hoist which has less chance of going in.

can somebody give me some link from some threads where I can learn something more about all tactics and when I play one or another tactics, with some analysis like in this topic, because in the rules there are just some I can say stupid tactics explanations :)) I will be very grateful if somebody help me :D and ignore thing that I play this game almost 10 seasons :D about the game I really don't know almost nothing

In my upcoming playoffs I will be facing a team that is alot stronger than me. I have been reading this thread about Patient and I think that if there is any chance to win my opponent then it is by playing patient.

This is my opponent (117732) He usually plays with a PF in SF position, but recently he bought a very nice PG so now he can play other tactics if he wants (he already played something different in his first game), but no matter what tactic he will use his weakest link should be his SF

But I am affraid that he will play 3-2 against me as I have played outside oriented tactics the whole season and I haven't seen any good examples of Patient working against 3-2

Also which player would you guys use in the SF position, I have two players, both of them have the same DR, one of them has 1 more JS than the second and the second has 1 more HA than the first.

In hope of help and good replys. tommi77

Patient works very optimal for those team who has :
- low stamina players
- experience above average
- good playmaker

Thanks for the help, I think I'll try this out as I have nothing to loose :)

There's been a lot added to this thread, but I'll just chuck in my experience since I've been experimenting with Patient off and on the past few seasons. My biggest lesson is this: when you just know that you're facing a solid outside defense, don't try this offense. I say this since more times than not my SG will shoot a lot. A whole lot. And we're not talking about the greatest shooter in the world, and definitely not my team's best offensive option. I usually run with 2 or 3 good passers every game, and the last time I ran Paitient (32851850) my two best passers were at the guard spots and my SF was also a pretty good passer (he's trained as a balanced SG), yet my SG took 46 shots, more than half of my team's shots, and only hit 14 of them. Granted, he had a decent mismatch to exploit, but I can't believe that his mismatch was any better than what my C had, at least not to justify the sheer volume of shots he took.

Anyway, I have had the occasional successful game with Patience, but in big games that offense has typically failed me. I'll probably try again some time when I think my roster is better suited for it, and perhaps when I throw a very bad shooting SG to see if he won't shoot so much. But I'm staying away from Patience for the next few weeks...