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And does anyone here believe in other tactics besides rng and li?

neutral? ptb? bo?

Do you believe in slow pace tactics a la jason running motion in nt?

Yes I believe in other tactics depending on our players as well as the defense we expect our opponent to run. Some offenses I may look into running are motion, PtB, LP.

You have said that you want to see more primaries on centers, and you have used Terrence Hammond as an example. Although Hammond was possibly the best player on the team last season, Jimmie Brown, arguably our best guard, shot 0-20 from 3. Due to the fact that we ran a LI offense last season, the big men will get more touches of the ball, and they will have more opportunites to kick the ball out to a guard for 3. Do you think that the low passing on some of the bigs we had caused such poor shooting performances from Jimmie Brown?

Im going to answer this too. The way I look at passing with the U21 team is it is always a plus if a big has passing. Could better passing on the bigs maybe have led to more baskets from Brown? Of course it could have but why take away from training the necessary primaries need to win just for a few extra points from Brown? In the end we may have scored less and lost more if we worried about that. So the wqy I look at it is if a center has good passing then its just a plus but im not going to tell someone to train passing for a few outside buckets instead of continue training one of the best U21 centers in the world.

I understand ur point on primaries, hence this question on secondaries.

If we LI, and we have a shooting guard that is the teams best shooter, and his driving is up to par, but has a 1 in inside shot and nothing special in passing, does he start? What do you think of inside shot for guards on a li?

Im going to answer this question as well. He does not start. I have continued to say it and believe it that IS does matter with guards. Of course it is easy to say it now because we don't know what we have in front of us just yet. I would love to have a guard playing with good passing and IS in a LI but if we do not have that option then we may have to play the guard you are talking about but I am a firm believer that IS does matter.

I believe I was winning the U21/NT prediction contest when it stopped! I feel cheated! lol

If elected, I'd be all for more contests and more of everything.

Specifically what does this entail and how do contests bring people to the offsite or cause them to get involved? Also, what is "more of everything?" Not trying to put you through a grinder here, but a lot of campaigns come and go and you here the same phrases without specificity every time, ya know?

The "influx" to the offsite is great, but getting them to get involved is key as well. Also, helping out new managers joins the realm of "scouting." I have heard it mentioned numerous times it would be great to assign mentors to all managers of players, but never heard of ideas to increase the number of scouts/mentors available.

So, all that the prospective coaches have to address is this question: can you give us some good evidence you won't go rogue and start selecting players on the basis of bizarre arguments?

I disagree that "what is good for U21" is very different from what's good for clubs. U21 players do not cost much, and usually their value is at the maximum just after the end of their 21yo season.

aka if it ain't broke don't fix it!

Also, I think we could provide plenty of evidence that training a U21 player is in fact good for your club team. We would have more difficulty proving that for the NT.

Please elaborate on the "rivalry" contest as well as other "games and contests" you may specifically have plans for.

Rivalry contest: It will be all about competition at the same position. What I would do is set up 2 players that will be considered "rivals". While we do this on the offsite as well as the BB site, I will keep track of the performance of each player as well as the players' abilities. My main goal would be setting up a scrimmage or two each season between the teams of these players where these two players will compete head to head against each other. I feel this will be a great way for owners to really want to train the best player they can and in return will not only help the U21/NT but their own club teams as well.

I have also had some thoughts of other competitions. One specific one is during the NCAA tournament. The top players in the pipeline will be divided up into brackets, just like the NCAA tournament, and there will be some kind of competition to see who has done the best job at training as well as what player performs the best in games. This idea hasn't been thought through completely yet so I know there are things that will probably need to be changed in order to do this. It's just an example of the types of games and contests I have planned.

One useful way of looking at the point is this: we, as a community, have accumulated too much knowledge of how NTs/U21 work, for there to be a promising newfangled approach. Any new team-composition strategy would need a comparable winning track-record to be even considered.

So, all that the prospective coaches have to address is this question: can you give us some good evidence you won't go rogue and start selecting players on the basis of bizarre arguments?

Beautifully stated, Coco. This is exactly my main though in choosing a manager. If someone says they want to do something more than a smidge different than what Rambo (and the collective wisdom) has been doing I want extremely documented and extensive agreements for the case. Otherwise I plan on giving you the stink eye.

Rambo should win. That is all.

Why did you post this silly message?

On a club level I'm a big fan of PTB. However I've been told numerous different times when I bring it up in a gameplanning thread that PTB is awful and it should never be used. Same thing with Princeton but I'm kidding more when I bring up Princeton than I am with PTB That is one of the things I've been convinced on to never run in an important game. Maybe in a scrimmage, but for the most part you won't see any base offense or isolation.