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Of course, it's more complex than that, unfortunately. The star trainer will need to have someone replacing the sold player's position on the team, which will offset the salary somewhat. Likewise, one could also assume that the star trainer could put the 550K difference in initial investment into building out the arena, which would essentially give an additional profit until the second team could match that investment (plus any subsequent ones the initial team makes).

I still am of the opinion that the first few seasons, train someone you can get cheap who has enough room to grow for several seasons, and put everything you can into building the arena. If you get better potential than star at a low price, wonderful, but arena first.

Yeah, there are a lot of other variables, but here we are just reducing it to a consideration of just the cost of acquiring, training, and supporting the trainee himself. I think it helps make it clearer to think about how other possible decisions would impact this.

I LOLed.

You guys are talking all hypotheticals and theories, when you pull up the payers, the cost of your actual trainers, your record with such players, the player's skills and relative value, you will see time and time again that those trainees end up near worthless by age 25.

I mean, other than the examples you have already been shown, of course. And the guy that I bought at 55k with more skills than the guy who sold for 450k. Or my draft pick who has higher skills even than that. All of whom were regular players on my team pretty much from the day I acquired them, meaning I didn't have to spend money on a veteran of higher skilll levels and upgrade each promotion.

And as far as the cost of the trainer, until I upgraded to a level 5 trainer this season, the amount I brought in above the league average in merchandise pretty much covered the full cost of the trainer (except when I got lazy and kept one of the trainers a bit too long).

I don't care what you did - I am not presuming to tell you what you did when you toiled away in the low levels of Japan's II was wrong or worthless. But likewise, you should not presume that you are the owner of the true with regards to the USA's lower levels. Last thread on this, you pointed out that all the people discussing this were in IV and so their opinions were worthless -- so now I suppose guys being in III and safe from relegation in their fourth full season of the game have no bearing on how to succeed in V and IV either? Shall we wait until I promote to II at some point before I am judged worthy of having an opinion?

But you're right. My trainees are worthless. I mean, they're only the starting rotation for a team that is very likely to make the playoffs in III, and I'm only pulling in close to 150% the league average in merchandise. The worst of the four remaining star guys just sold for almost half a million, which is apparently not even worth wiping my nose with. But I forget -- that's all theory. I mean, what relevance does any of that have to a lower level manager in a big country, when you have all the experience of slumming it down in II to rely on?

oh and here is a warning to all these people supposedly buying your trained up star pot. players~

Look at the purchase price and skills of players you can get, over star potential

Kévin Barrau Bought Mouson 1/10/2012 $ 371 900 56k C allstar
Ermes Arca Bought Milano Knickerbokers 2/8/2012 $ 450 000 35k allstar
Samuel Falcón Bought Free Agent 2/8/2012 $ 306 800 30k perrenial
Albert Solano Bought Free Agent 11/30/2011 $ 408 000 19k superstar
Panos Vlimas Bought Free Agent 10/18/2011 $ 246 090 20k salary allstar

Yes. And none of those players have any business being on a team in USA's V because their salaries are way too high. Heck, just the first two combined have more weekly salary than my entire team as I came out of V, and I could have probably shaved some salary still considering how easily I promoted. The top three really shouldn't appear on a well-built team in IV, either - I had one 25k guy and everyone else around 16k or less as I promoted out of IV.

I mean, sure, if your idea of lower level is II.whatever, yeah, you can surely afford a 120k+ salary for a fairly new team. But if you're advocating that new players go out and buy 20k players, you're simply too unfamiliar with lower level finances in larger countries and maybe you should leave the discussions about those to people who *do* understand.