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Maybe some skills or a compilation of the training gets you faster results, (i have my doubts about how much is that effect) but the game as far as about me its a competitive. Win comes 1st, everything else 2nd. So an other factor is the opportunity cost. A player with 13 OD and nothing else in my eyes will not be as useful as a player with more balanced training.

When i have 2-3 hard games i will not train skills that are 1 position. I will train for example ( since i train guards) JS or DR. I am trying to keep the balance between win/developing players, and in general i like the balanced players. Also nothing can convince me to train SB for big men, since being the Cyprus NT coach i have those 2 players (6895165) and (8238533). There sum on IS/ID/RE is the same. 1 has +1 on the rebs the other +1 on ID. The 1st has 5 on SB, the 2nd 9. The 1st has much better 2ndries. So are those +4 on SB+the faster training speed worth the 44k+ salary of the 2nd player? In my opinion NO.

I can understand that some managers only cares to develop players (mistake for my point of view), but the game its not all about to create a monster, but to win. Creating a great player its just one (very important part, but not the only one) to succeed, except if your goal is a monster NT player who can play only there and not on actual competitive team...

In sum up, even if the elastic effect exist, i am not sure it its worth to make sacrifices of it. The benefit will not reward you. Its a possible be wrong, but again thats my opinion

Last edited by JohnnyB at 10/2/2010 7:32:24 AM

Steve Makis and Cippis teaches you well ;D

Yes, especially Steve. Cyprus community owe him a lot, in general.

Win comes 1st, everything else 2nd. So an other factor is the opportunity cost. A player with 13 OD and nothing else in my eyes will not be as useful as a player with more balanced training.

a OD only guard could be still effective, i know a team who run this strategy quite succesful in div 2 with low salarys an a inside attack strategy ;)

But you are right about winning, especially because OD/passing are probadly the skill who you should train at last for the elastic effect(at least if the theory is right) and driving is the skill who you should train first. I personally rate driving pretty low, but a driving only player who could vcreate his own shot but rarely could finish a open one is probadly worthless in the eye of the most managers. And for optional training you had to train the guards alot on Point Guard position, so normaly i recommend training OD(imho the most powerful guard skill) and Passing(which you need when you play him at PG) first.

I dont wanna dissappoint anyone but on Spain lot of outside players have been trained on that way since season 3-5... but training 1vs1 instead of handling.

Last edited by Marot at 10/2/2010 7:28:33 PM

I think lots of people want X skills as high as possible. In this case I think they should conisder what is the level they would like the elastic effect complimenting skills at, setting a goal for those skills is important, then train those skills to that point and at last work on the desired skill.

you shouldn't forget that you train your skills even secondary, so it would be useful to stop earlier and make the rest of the training through secondaries.

PS: I believe with the train example, you would be faster driving the car late or you made a longer distance ;) But for training speed where you always train at 100% in the skill, and not driving with 50% it is equal.

two skilup are maybe a bit to optimistic, i got this player:

"Jump Shot: stupendous Jump Range: wondrous
Outside Def.: tremendous Handling: prolific
Driving: strong Passing: sensational
Inside Shot: respectable Inside Def.: inept
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: mediocre
Stamina: average Free Throw: respectable"

i didn't train him a lot, but one of his driving ups comes from me and i believe with one to one training(maybe JS) but he train it at least once

if people try to get advantage of this "elastic effect", lots of guards will end up with +20 driving and handling..

I've seen lots of this players, with their three main skill around 20(JS,HA,DR). Apart from training faster or don't, a player with a high JS,HA,DR always plays betther than a player with only JS-JR and now if you say that this kind of players train faster...