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Date: 9/9/2009 2:23:00 PM
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It was not you. I'm not sure but I think it was


by elboss (England NT Coach)


In my opinion scouting is not the big issue here. I did pretty extensive scouting last season (note that you really have to do this once a season). It's all pretty automated and in the "Real english federation" there is a list of the players worth looking at.

The problem is that it's difficult (impossible?) to get potential stars trained to fulfill their potential. I found it impossible to get the right players in places where they'd get trained properly. Apart from some remarkable few players, that is why our NT efforts are lagging...

Obviously whoever gets elected will get the list of potentials, best draftees for this season, etc. etc. So the partial knowledge of the player pool the candidates have now is not all that relevant...

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Date: 9/9/2009 2:24:30 PM
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Off-topic: Vasco92 is one of my team managers and our ideas about this NT are the same... So any question that one of you can do, the answer will be the same, so it doesn't matter who answer. It's an explanation.

From: Vasco92

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Date: 9/9/2009 2:57:39 PM
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I have some more questions to you:

1st: How many players will you assemble in the beggining of the season?

2nd: How would you distribute the players? (how many for each position)

3rd: And what about potencial? What will be the minimum?

From: Soel
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Date: 9/9/2009 3:08:40 PM
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Howdy folks!

I'm a manager of a division 2 team and I'd just like to take 2 minutes to throw my support behind my league mate, Astrogoth.

I've not been playing the game too long, I started in season 6 and got promoted out of my scrub-filled division 3 league pretty quick and joined a very nice little league, II.1. The league had friendly members who were all quick to send me a message and let me know to ask them if I needed help pretty soon after i joined. Being the beginner I was I took liberty of this and from my experience I can honestly say that Astrogoth has always replied in a very, very friendly manner very, very quickly to any questions I've had. It's this reason alone that has compelled me to post this message, as I think it's key for anyone involved with the national teams to be both of these things - active and friendly. Astro has been playing the game a long time now and is very knowledgable - not only about how to win games but also how to develop the team for the future. But he is also happy to hear other people's opinions, I'm sure he'll be able to work with the community well.

I have no doubt in my mind that Astrogoth is the person for the job. I don't have a bad word to say about the other canidates as I don't know them. I'm sure they would all do well but it's hard to image that there is a candidate as passionate, knowledgable or active than Astro.

So please take the time to vote for him, as I'm sure he'll take the time to talk to you and together help develop the English junior team over the next 2 (or hopefully 4) seasons.

From: Vasco92

To: Soel
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Date: 9/9/2009 3:21:36 PM
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Howdy folks!

I'm a manager of a division 2 team and I'd just like to take 2 minutes to throw my support behind my league mate, Astrogoth.

I've not been playing the game too long, I started in season 6 and got promoted out of my scrub-filled division 3 league pretty quick and joined a very nice little league, II.1. The league had friendly members who were all quick to send me a message and let me know to ask them if I needed help pretty soon after i joined. Being the beginner I was I took liberty of this and from my experience I can honestly say that Astrogoth has always replied in a very, very friendly manner very, very quickly to any questions I've had. It's this reason alone that has compelled me to post this message, as I think it's key for anyone involved with the national teams to be both of these things - active and friendly. Astro has been playing the game a long time now and is very knowledgable - not only about how to win games but also how to develop the team for the future. But he is also happy to hear other people's opinions, I'm sure he'll be able to work with the community well.

I have no doubt in my mind that Astrogoth is the person for the job. I don't have a bad word to say about the other canidates as I don't know them. I'm sure they would all do well but it's hard to image that there is a candidate as passionate, knowledgable or active than Astro.

So please take the time to vote for him, as I'm sure he'll take the time to talk to you and together help develop the English junior team over the next 2 (or hopefully 4) seasons.



Hi. I don't know if you saw our list's goals and measures, but one of them was to personally help other users training their future stars or even developing their teams. So by that, I can say that I'm an helpful people and that I'm active too, because it will take a lot of time to do all this.

2nd: I've been following both portuguese national teams, that are one step ahead of English ones, for 2 years. I learnt a lot with the users that went to the forums talking about the game, and It's because of them that I know this much.

3rd: You said that you found an active forum in your league and that it helped you a lot. One of our goals is to dinamize the forum and bring people there. It seems that only our list will try to do this, because Astrogoth already said that it's useless to do it because they already tried it.


Do you still think that we're not passionable, knowledgable or active?

Since you're one of the onlys that come here without having a list, I would like you to ask questions to all of the candidates, as it would help us showing why should we be the chosen ones and it would help you chosing who shoud you vote for

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One question.

Why do you think you are not qualified to be coach of Portugal U21 but are qualified to be coach of England U21?

From: Vasco92

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Date: 9/9/2009 4:00:42 PM
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Well, first of all there are plenty of good voaches in Portugal and the actual coach did an excelent job on that team, so even if I was one of the bests in Portugal, the voters would choose to vote for the actual coach again.

I think that we are qualified to coach in England because the problem main here is not the players we have, but the players we don't have because they were not trained. As you read ( I believe so), we personally acompany every coach with potencial NT players, so that they can train their players without destroying the team ( yes, because we will not only help them in the training, but also in other things they need). That will take a lot of work and that's the reason why we built a 3-man staff team. We believe that to do this, it's needed more than one person. I think that this is a point in favour of or apply, because we are the only list that prepared a team for this elections

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109310.84 in reply to 109310.81
Date: 9/9/2009 4:38:31 PM
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you guys keep turning things into other things that never have been said... this I find quite annoyong. Soel never said or even implied
Do you still think that we're not passionable, knowledgable or active?
anything along these lines. All he said is that he cant imagine someone more passionate, knowledgable or active than me. These are 2 totally different things...

I cant see any other reason for you guys doing this, than that you not fully understand what is being said in English...

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Date: 9/9/2009 4:51:44 PM
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I think that the one who didn't understood it was you. He was saying that would vote for you because you were the most passionate etc. he knew. I showed him examples of things that we would do to show him that, even if we weren't as passionate etc. as you, we have what it takes to lead this NT.

And you keep hitting on the same note. Maybe you think that the only way to beat us is by constantly saying that we don't understand english.

You started saying that we were allways avoiding to answer the questions that were made. But the one that's not answering them is you. Could you please answer them so that the voters could have an idea of your plan?

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Date: 9/9/2009 4:58:16 PM
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i am sure the voters have a good enough idea as to what my plans are by now. and I am more than happy to answer any questions the voters might have...

Last edited by Astragoth at 9/9/2009 4:58:30 PM

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Date: 9/9/2009 5:04:27 PM
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LOL. Seems to my that you don't know how to answer the questions. Is sad to know that you are always complaining about having a inactive comunity that doenst care about training the players, but when someone new comes and tries to change it, you do everything you can to destroy his apply. That way, your country will never develop... We came here to try to help you, but it seems like you are doing very well and don't need our help...

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