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switzerland has no farm team. fortunately we have a few swiss teams where our best players are playing. the rest is playing in the highest divisions overall the world.
the bad thing about that is, that our players salary will never be higher than 350k. but the good thing with this system is, that our best players are always in good GS. and if you are a small country like us (less than 300managers) it is the only way to stay competitive with the biggest countries...

In my eyes it's not so easy to find a team with enough funds and willing to stay in game as a farm. Especially with current transfer prices. But maybe some countries have different experience.

It's not so easy in the small countries like ours and yours, but in big countries, I think is not a problem to find few teams like this.
But this is just my humble opinion :-)

Salary over 350k is not needed, especially when salaries are going down each season. And I think concept of Div I in home country is best way.
Biggest countries has just 2 main advantages:
- more chances to find a farm
- more drafted players every season gives more chances to find high potential players with high starting skills

Not sure about that, because it is not easy to save enough funds in lower divisions. Best possibility for farm is higher division team which decides to end as a competitive team, sell all players to have as much funds as possible and than continue as a farm.

Not sure about that, because it is not easy to save enough funds in lower divisions. Best possibility for farm is higher division team which decides to end as a competitive team, sell all players to have as much funds as possible and than continue as a farm.

Basically the incomes of the top divisions are the same all over the world,every country with some hundred of teams can easily find famrs....

So, then I'm very unlucky in looking for farms I have found almost none in our country.

I have to explain myself better:in a game like this there is a continue turnover of the users,so while some user will sign up,other will quit the game
If you can convince somone who want to quit the game to use his dying team to substain a player for the our Nt,then you have a farm
Surely,more teams there are in a nation,and more competitive are the teams(because the money of a farm come from players's sale),more farm teams you can find.But I can't believe that no one in your country leave the game in the last seasons,the point is that you should work before they are done,trying to sensitize the community to leave their team for the community when they decide to leave

I could give you an argument if you talk about "half farm",ie active users that for a period decide to train a substain a Nt player because they don't have other stimuli,but are still active and could return to a normal game in a future time.For this kind of team,effectively main countries could be advantaged,because also lower team divisions can afford a 150-200k players that are still developing

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/23/2011 10:14:24 AM

I have done just what you described. But do you know more effective way than asking people for think of it before they leave on forum etc.? And even if I have done it again and again no one ever wrote me he wants to be a farm. We have few farms but in this situation I knew that teams are going to leave and I asked manager to become a farm. But fortunatelly we don't have too much players that need a farm. I think more about farm for developing younger players with reasonable salary as that players can afford lower divisions team with not so big funds. Later these players can be bought by Div I, Div II teams as secondaries are high enough.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 2/23/2011 10:27:37 AM

I didn't say that you made a bad work,I had only say that famrs can be find in evey country.The problem is the number and the use you do.
As you have just said,also your country has his farms,few but farms.
I think that you are one of the best coach in the world in involving the community,because czech users really follow your indication to improve your national team.But you can't know what every team will do,What I mean with the term"sensitize the community" is that if someone is going to leave,other users could contact you saying"Hello coach,this X manager is leaving the game,maybe you can convince him to become a farm" so you can use that team as a farm

It's more a community duty than a your duty... ;D

In Italy we have problem to find so many farms as the number of great players we have,because probably the managers that leave the game are the managers that are less involved by the game and community,so it's difficult to find teams with the right characteristics to be farms,but definitively it can be done...

Surely,farms are needed only for few players,because the work has to be done also in the field where you are a great expert,creating competitive players with the less possible salary

Surely,farms are needed only for few players,because the work has to be done also in the field where you are a great expert,creating competitive players with the less possible salary

As even in our country still many managers don't understand that off position training can be very usefull also for clubs I think farms could be usefull also for players with lower salary - expecially for my multiskill concept.

Surely,farms are needed only for few players,because the work has to be done also in the field where you are a great expert,creating competitive players with the less possible salary

As even in our country still many managers don't understand that off position training can be very usefull also for clubs I think farms could be usefull also for players with lower salary - expecially for my multiskill concept.

This is a completely different question
It's not a problem that you can't find farms,the problem is that some managers doesn't understand training in the way you like more