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93323.78 in reply to 93323.75
Date: 6/6/2009 12:43:28 PM
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But still, there is no community here.


Those that participate in the USA forum and the offsite forum probably wouldn't like that.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.79 in reply to 93323.74
Date: 6/6/2009 12:59:00 PM
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I have different ideas on alot of strategy compared to juice, but thats for you to figure out.




Thats like a politician saying I have lots of great ideas to fix the economy but I'm not going to tell you you have to guess yourself. Gunner from ready all your threads I haven't seen anything new or ingenious that your planning on doing. With out new ideas or an obvious increase in motivation (which we've seen quite the opposite of from you), leaves us only to pick on experience.

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Date: 6/6/2009 2:07:39 PM
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But still, there is no community here.


Those that participate in the USA forum and the offsite forum probably wouldn't like that.


well facts are facts. the nbba smack talk thread is probably the most active thread in the game.

why?


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93323.81 in reply to 93323.80
Date: 6/6/2009 2:11:12 PM
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well facts are facts.


So you're saying that the people who participate in the community aren't really in the community at all.

Sorry guys, those of us that participate don't count, I guess.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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93323.82 in reply to 93323.79
Date: 6/6/2009 2:17:35 PM
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exactly. and juice has alot of experience getting us to the semis, but has shown no ability to get us past that round.

i think specifics for increasing fan participation have to do more with personality than anything else. i'd take a polarizing manager who made crazy proclamations and antagonized opponents greatly and had the whole world talking, as long as they had the skill to back it up. much more exciting than our usual boring exit in the semifinals which we seem to have mastered.

i am not saying i would do that, but i offer something different

as far as my specific strategies, its different from game to game.

i have offered a few specifics, such as FCP more against weak teams and possibly base offense more against strong teams, but those are tactics.things like player selection in games 11 weeks ago are really almost too minute to bicker over. juice clearly has an information edge over me as well. he might know that our top sg really is only 1 week from popping in both outside d and jump range, where i might not know that this minute and bench that player for someone thats weaker.

so in terms of nitty gritty, of course i cant tell you exactly what i'd do. but i am quite sure i view the game differently than almost anyone. i would be happy to share with anyone that wanted to see it the earliest version of an excel spreadsheet i ran that attempted to rate all the players by position at base offense. pop in the abilitiy levels and you got a 0-100 scale on talent (absurdo players could theoretically score higher than 100, but as a reference, colin harrell scored 96 as a sg at the time of his selling, and whittington was a 94 at pg) my best pg (greer) grades out as a 88 PG and 92 sg (i still prefer him at pg)

and yes, while things like funerals, and weddings will always come first in my life, i still think im motivated, motivated to answer questions from rookies or vets and treat them with respect all teh same

lastly, and i dont mean to demean you, but the difference between a good and great manager in this game is usually minor details. i have been pilloried for setting a patient lineup (one i set too far in advance and couldnt change) because i didnt think i could win a game, without looking to see that UH Rojos was safe in their spot and would also TIE me (i thought they would normal to go for 1 seed last season)

there is no magic formula to being a great manager. each game has 10-12 decisions to make, and they all relate, and the errors dont always show, but you have to get it right more often than the other guys to maximize your chances.

I have different ideas on alot of strategy compared to juice, but thats for you to figure out.




Thats like a politician saying I have lots of great ideas to fix the economy but I'm not going to tell you you have to guess yourself. Gunner from ready all your threads I haven't seen anything new or ingenious that your planning on doing. With out new ideas or an obvious increase in motivation (which we've seen quite the opposite of from you), leaves us only to pick on experience.


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Date: 6/6/2009 4:19:02 PM
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TJ your only one league higher. Shouldn't by your logic we eliminate you and choose one of the D I or II managers?


I was going to make this recommendation, also. I will say that I will only vote for a manager who had D I or D II experience, and who has had some success in those leagues.


TJ your only one league higher. Shouldn't by your logic we eliminate you and choose one of the D I or II managers?

I was going to make this recommendation, also. I will say that I will only vote for a manager who had D I or D II experience, and who has had some success in those leagues.

I want everyone to know I'm in Div. IV (4) and give me a shot plz I'm a begginer on the Jr. Suns team of Anthem,AZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![player=Gustavo Johnson] says Know your damn role!

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93323.84 in reply to 93323.83
Date: 6/6/2009 4:28:48 PM
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Can we just eliminate Andy now. Each of your posts are getting less and less intelligent. Please answer a few questions for us.

1) Why should a country with 2689 active managers choose one who still (as of this post) has not played in a regular season or playoff game?

2) How will you advise managers on developing players when your best player isn't even over $5000 salary

FC

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93323.85 in reply to 93323.53
Date: 6/7/2009 1:22:37 AM
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i have watched the first or 2nd half of maybe 4-5 games. knowng the players skills gives me a 2nd opinion on figuring out the game engine. i almost am never around for the 2nd half of any game in real time, so keep that in mind as wel. all watching is based from the replay.


I modified my question. When I first asked 1a- the intended for the respondents to include REPLAY games. So feel free to modify your repsonse.

1a- how many USA NT and U21 games have you watched COMPLETELY this past season? ( both LIVE and replay)

Sorry for any confusion that I may have caused
dennis54

Last edited by dennis54 at 6/7/2009 1:23:50 AM

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93323.86 in reply to 93323.81
Date: 6/7/2009 8:05:25 AM
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well facts are facts.


So you're saying that the people who participate in the community aren't really in the community at all.

Sorry guys, those of us that participate don't count, I guess.



its not that they dont count its that they havent been given a good reason to particpate

you know full well where im going with this.

Is it partially unfair to put the lion's share of the blame on you? Sure

Is it reasonable to put SOME of the blame on you as the only NT manager we've ever had for the declining vote totals and relative apathy compared to series conferences? Absolutely.

You can say what you want about wanting to change it. Your demeanor and actions won't allow for change, unlesss you yourself change dramatically.

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93323.87 in reply to 93323.4
Date: 6/7/2009 10:25:36 PM
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I believe u have been doing a great job but i also believe that its time for a new manager just to get fresh ideas. This is not the best idea but maybe we should have a bourd of directors to give u fresh ideas.
From david21457

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Date: 6/7/2009 10:35:56 PM
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I think the field should be now lowered to:

GM-JuicePats
TheUnrepentantGunner
Shot City
david21457
run and gun TJ

These seem to be the best and most attractive 5 candidates to voters.

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