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I agree. But that guard also had high jr. for a LI sg id value more dr and js, and if possible more is. But his is, level is good in my opinion already

Not sure if right thread, but I guess. So, Im training my player in a route which is like: IS, ID, IS, RB, ID, IS, RB, ID, IS, RB, IS, ID, IS, RB, ID. Something like that. I will train inside levels only this season.

Talking about this season trainings, pops come really haaaaaaaardly, for Michael O'Connell, I don't remember how many trainings I gave, but it is about 5 and only 2 pop ups, of course its normal at his height, but he is young and he is trained ON C POSITION WITH 6lvl trainer...

i think 2 pops in 5 weeks is fine for inside skills on a guard at 18 years of age.
For pressure - OD being a slow outside skill to train - its generally 2 pops in 4 weeks at his age.

And a level 6 trainer is great ( i have one ) but they are very expensive for the extra pop they give you every season (or two) - whatever it is on top of a level 5 trainer ! the main thing is he gets his 48+ each week which it looks like you have done for 4 of the 5 weeks training he has had.

inside skills on a guard over average/respectable are quite rare i think so it is promising that you are working this into his training this early on :)

also are you in touch on bbmail with u21 staff? i cant seem to find him on my list and am interested in knowing his skills.

if he has started with decent inside skills then it makes sense to put the hard work in to take them up to proficient or prominent.

Um. We were talking about him with guys from this forum month ago...

5 5
5 5
5 7
7 8
3 1
3 7

I will train rebs this week, then ID after that IS. Im thinking to raise his inside skills to something like

10 10
5 2 But I don't know if I will make it untill this season Ends. Probably not. After this season I will leave inside skills for 2 seasons I think... So I would like to get some good advices about his training route... Even a program, maybe..

i dont think id bother touching his rebounding for the extra good it would do. It may pop anyway as you train everything else in the coming seasons.
alternatively you could train SB a little but again this would be difficult to manage as your other trainees probably wont benefit from that.
Certainly try to get his IS and ID up.
i think it would be a good idea to agree and aim for a target you are happy with - and hopefully one that will give the NT a great player one day.

maybe you should think up some skills targets for by the time he reaches 21.
so count the pops you think he will get this season and then add say 18 more assuming these are outside skills (9 per season for when he is 19 and 20 years old).

for example you could aim for :

5+5=10 5+2=7
5+7=12 5+2=7
5+2=7 7+0=7
7 8
3 1
3 7

adding to this whatever extra inside pops you think he can get.
so this would require a lot of 1 position pressure and outside shooting mostly.

alternatively you could swap some or all outside shooting for 1 position passing

It's hard to think far to the future. I want to raise his inside skills to 9-10 this season. Then I will leave it for good. But rebbounds is good thing for small players too.. what do you think ?

all skills are good for all players but the question you have to answer is - for every extra pop in rebounding you get is it worth the extra skills you could have had elsewhere, bearing in mind the change in salary that results?

so you could spend 2 or 3 weeks training rebounding per pop and increasing this players final salary by 30k (or whatever it may be depeding on how high you take it) by the time he is 25 or 26 years old and finished training.

Or you could spend these weeks on other skills - perhaps more useful - and pay a lower salary for the rest of his career.
The efficiency of salary and skill mix also determines his transfer value if you ever want to sell him on.

In addition to this you should consider how important rebounding will be on this guard for your team - if you like to play faster offenses that results in a lot of shots then rebounding in general is more valuable. If you are weaker at rebounding at SF/PF/C than the teams you play against then a couple of rebounding pops would be more valuable as a guard.

ultimately the efficient training for this guy is to become an SG or a PG not an SF because of his height. so my advice would be not to spend any time training rebounding on this particular trainee. Focus on ID, then IS this season and see where you get to. If you can get them both to 9, or 9 and a bit, then id be tempted to leave these alone and wait for the eventual cross training pops to push them to a low 10 over the next few seasons.

His guard skills will need quite a bit of work so unless you fall way short of your 10/10 IS/ID goal it is probably a good thing to go to guard training from next season onwards.

have you any idea what kind of salary you want to pay for him in the long run?
Whether you want a PG or an SG out of him? This will help determine a target skill set to aim for that you can finalise in his last season of training.

Ok. No rebounding then. Salary - I have no idea. I would like to make PG from him, despite making SG would be a lot easier, but there are many good SG in BB world, so I want to make a good PG.

well you could aim to grow your arena and success at the club so that you could support a salary of 100k on one of your players with the rest being 20k-40k plus some cheaper bench scrubbers. and do this over 4 or 5 seasons. He will be 22/23 by then and assuming a balanced development his wages wont be at £100k.

do some research and look at some 100k salary PGs. they come in all shapes and sizes. Note the ones with high bids on and what they have in common. I bet they have OD of 17+ and a good amount of HA and PA and DR. you may be surprised by how many have good JS as well.
Maybe you could get some ideas from what you see there and bring some back here for discussion?

Pressure and passing training will be needed then after this season. He will at some point need a lot of JR/JS training even if he is a PG - but just not as much as an SG.

The good thing for you is while he is 19-21 you need to take up all of his guard skills but after this you will need to fix his training to aim at the target levels you have for his skills.

I got friendly game, Michael played 48 minutes, but because enemy didn't have enough roster for the game he got 41 minute........................... Hate this shit. For real.